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Originally Posted by littlemanpoet
 Okay, it's time for me to reveal my face down cards. I am of the catastrophist school of thought in regard to the solar system. |
Thanks for the links.
In my admittedly brief review (and obvious bias against)
Immanuel_Velikovsky's work, "Worlds in Collision," ...well, all I can say is I wish you and those that believe and study such all the best. Show your results and change the establishment; that's what's science is all about.
What's hard for me to believe is that with all of the rearranging of the planets - Earth, Saturn, Venus - that
any would have been alive to observe and record such events. As I understand this, much of the planets' re-ordering (Earth used to orbit Saturn?) was recently (~3500 BC) recorded by humans who, not only seeing signs and wonders in the heavens, also experienced cataclysmic events on Earth, and yet lived to tell of it. We read their works today, which they may have presented as what we call mythology, but this was just the language that they used to express these events.
Assume for a moment that the ancients did record these events, and that, in defiance of all of the science that the establishment holds dear (and is used successfully daily), that Velikovsky's hypotheses are true. This would not provide any proof that 'real' gods exist, and that today, we still know more about Venus than did those thousands of years ago.
I hope to have time to read more in regards to the mythology comparison as, though not a catastrophist, find the similarities (when they exist and are not read into the data) interesting.
** An aside that might help you understand where I come from - The wolves that raised me and some of my sibling wolves got together last night. One noted that our dog looked "fluffy," and innocently asked how much the dog weighed. As it's my/our dog, I stated that she weighed between 55 and 60 pounds.
This, of course, was not acceptable proof in my family. It was opinion and not admissible. Calls were made to get the bathroom scale. Me and my brother wolf made sure that the scale was somewhat accurate - it displayed the weights that we'd both expect if one of us were to step on it, and when I went to weigh the dog - I would have to hold her - our combined weights would be within the limits of the scale, as established by my heavier brother's test.
So, while trying not to get bitten
(the dog was wondered what all this was about), I stood on the scale while holding her in my arms. After subtracting my weight, the dog's weight was established to be ~53 pounds.
So I was wrong, having overestimated the dog's weight. This established, we went on to discuss another topic, as I wasn't even sure why I was weighing the dog in the first place.
So maybe this will help you understand why I doubt everything - it's not you.