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Old 03-31-2008, 02:33 PM   #255
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"Our marshall begins the journey with his famous rant on the choice of the ringbearer - the results of which we all know by now. He sure was reckless and as I deeply honour my friends the hobbits I must confess I personally disliked his outburst back then.

Then he seems to join the band of those wishing to let Halbarad stay:
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Originally Posted by Théodred #65
I believe Halbarad will prove himself useful. Our journey just begun, I find it rash to make such a case against the fellow, and yet in this case his accusers seem reasonable. Still, I cannot help but consider the role he may play later in the journey. Surely, if we were to go with old Tom's advice, he would be the first to go, as he seems here merely to entertain, yet in my mind's eye I sense an innocence about him.
His formulation of the thing would be the most bold one were he to be Halbarad's ally. I don't know, maybe he could do it? To whom he refers there in the end (to me or Halbarad) is a bit unclear to me.

But he stayed the course supporting Halbarad after that by yet insisting when Halbarad was leading the vote:
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Originally Posted by Théodred #74
Once again, my fellows, I feel the need to speak out against a hasty lynching of Halbarad; I may be misguided, but I feel that he warrants an opportunity to prove where his loyalties lie.
Yes, this looks like a friend doing it in a round about way as well - but still trying to act before it's too late. Hmm... many of us seem to have done this so who was the one who did it on purpose?

What strikes me odd in hisbehaviour the next Day is his opening when he goes on agreeing with Galadriel thus:
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Originally Posted by Théodred #94
Galadriel, I, too, regret now the decision to allow Halbarad's continued presence with our fellowship, and while we may disagree regarding....regarding your lifestyle....I feel that for now at least I have no choice but to trust you, at least regarding the curious behavior of Halbarad.
the funny thing being that he seems to agree basically on her points on Halbarad - while at that time one ofGaladriel's main points still was that it had been Halbarad who had quarrelled with Lobelia and not him. And he should know it himself!

After that he goes on accusing those who voted for Gandalf with reasons based on before-this-trip-experiences-on-person's-character which I found quite dubious then - and I do find it dubious now.

When Galadriel's mistake was discovered and Halbarad hade made fun of it - as it kind of showed Théodred being eager to nail someone because of reasons that were drawn from his own behaviour - Theodred defended that he mainly supported the conclusions of Galadriel and not the reasons themselves.

Now this might be fishy indeed but it would also be more than bold for Halbarad to expose his mate in crime that way and make public fun of it. Could these two pull this? Nevertheless it would be unwise and Theodred continued keeping Halbarad a suspect and added more suspicions to him - even if he didn't vote him that Day.

Later he pops up and wonders why everyone ignores Radagast. This would have been bold indeed from a fellow traitor.

In the end he says that the speeches (votes / vote-threats) of Daín and myself woke him up and he would vote for Lobelia. He also said he would wish to vote for Halbarad to just check his loyalties.

On the next Day he seems to think me innocent and questions Uglúk's vote on me. Then he pointed out that Elrohir would be innocent if Halbarad was a traitor (whis is talking sense indeed - but traitors can speak sense too). Then seals Halbarad's fate by choosing him over myself to vote.

Today he announces he trusts lady Galadriel, Uglúk and myself and of the two remaining the actions of other traitors lord Elrohir looks innocent and thence votes for Daín.

Well, I couldn't say he's clean as a cloth but most reasonable one anyway - most of the time. Even if some things bother me and should be checked if there is toMorrow for old Bombadil..."

EDIT: X'd with Uglúk and Théodred
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