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Old 03-29-2008, 05:36 AM   #193
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"Now, I have long pondered Radagast's relations with us who still remain... now hear this. Let me pose a few questions and then answer them.

What did Radagast say of Uglúk?
He repeatedly (#17, #32, #38, #132) mentioned that he did not mind his being in the fellowship because he respected Curunir's wisdom. He also mentioned having some concern about the Uruk (#38) and later (#132) questioned his vote against Iarwain and said that it troubles him, but he will wait until the Orc comes back and explains, although it won't probably happen until after the next collision.

What did he say about Iarwain?
He first defended his rhymes (#17) saying there's no malice in them. Later he defended him again (#38) and noted that everybody were very suspicious of Iarwain, which, in my opinion, was not true. When we had come from from Caradhras (#114), he said that the old fellow's actions were odd, but he did not actually suspect him. Radagast to Iarwain's request and explained that most people find Iarwain's rhymes confusing and also explained his kindness (#132).

What did he say about me, Gildor Inglorion?
He said he respected me and agreed with me that we should not make rash decisions (#32). Later, he agreed with me again (#114), this time on the possible reasons behind Elladan's death. He also called my reasoning steady (#132). He elaborated my point to Éomer, but actually misinterpreted it (#164).

What did he say of Elrohir?
He supported his words about keeping together (#32). He also asked him to give reasons for his vote in Eregion (#123), seconding Éomer there. But later, after stating he had grown concerned about him, he dismissed the whole matter now that Elrohir "is willing to -- concentrate on any other more rational choices". When Iarwain mentioned sending Elrohir home, Radagast said (#145): "It is not so much unhelpful as Elrohir said himself earlier that his thoughts would be few after the event of such a thing and that he needed time. If he wished to return home he might say more on this, but I think it pity-seeking of others to force words into his mouth." Then he agreed with Iarwain about Elrohir (what did Iarwain actually say evades my mind at the moment) and voted him (#164).

What did he say about Halbarad?
He answered his question about trust (#38). He called him enigma in others' eyes and said he seems honest and reserved to him (#132).

What of Galadriel then?
He agreed with Dáin that it would be good to hear more of her (#42). He also mentioned her when talking about Halbarad and said he understands her vote and would like to hear more of her (#132). Later yesterday (#164) he said "Voting for Galadriel does not seem to be the quickest way of flushing out traitors, if that is what voting for her is to acomplish. Unless the goal is to just send her home without getting any information from her, but to me that seems a waste of good judgement."

What did he say of Théodred?
He defended himself against Théodred's suspicions and said that the Rohir is starting to sound like Elrohir in Eregion(#132). He also said his "immediate concern" is troubling and considered voting him but decided against it (#164).

As far as I see, he did not mention Dáin at all."

Gildor paused, giving the other time to think about what he had said and himself time for drinking water from his waterskin. Then he continued:

"What did others say of Radagast then?

What did Iarwain say?
He said Elladan might be trying to make Radagast look suspicious (#34). When accusing Elladan, he mentioned Radagast's case to be out of the blue and slightly defended him (#78). When he went away (#125), he asked Radagast to fill him in with the day's discussion. When he had come back (#128), he said that Radagast was over-friendly and thus odd. In the last moments of yesterday (#150) he says: "Wake up Radagast my friend! We have no time to this kind of thing anymore. Are you trying to force me to stand up against you after I have voted my dearest friend and your kin out? Try to be more constructive - or are you not interested? Because the traitors are safe at the moment so it's just fine whoever of the top-candidates right now get sent away and you don't feel any urgency to bring in your own thoughts about the vote?" he repeated this a while later (#162) by saying: "Radagast goes for straw-picking with roles and character-emotions at the last minutes when we should do something else. So why? Because everything's alright to him? 'nuff said?"

What did Halbarad say about him?
He questioned Radagast's words about trust and asked who he would trust (#36).

What did Dáin say about him?
He mentioned him among the wise of the company (#40). Later (#76) he mentioned that the wizard agreed with him about Lobelia's behaviour. Near the gates of Moria he said "Radagast, I have no opinion of yet, as Theodred said we seem to have passed him entirely in our calculations. Let me examine his words before I offer further incite on him."

And what did Galadriel say?
She first mentioned him when we had descended from Caradhras and in her first speech she declared that she had no reason to doubt his allegiance (#92).

Or Théodred?
He noted that Radagast had not voted in Eregion (#94). Later, he noticed that "Radagast had thrown suspicions toward others, but had been overlooked by the masses". Which is a good point, if you ask me, although Radagast had actually been defending people more than attacking them. At the same moment, Théodred hoped that people would pay more attention to Radagast.

What did I, Gildor Inglorion say?
I first talked about him on our way from Caradhras to Moria (#121) and said these words, that look so bitter now: "His presence is so kind and honest that it is impossible to think bad of him. If he's a traitor, he's the foulest of them all." Later (#140) I questioned Éomer's way of suspecting Radagast.

Uglúk did not mention him at all."

Gildor made a pause again, but this time he did not drink from the waterskin, but hummed a hymn to Elbereth in order to gather his thoughts.

"Based only on this, I would say the following things. Based on this, Théodred looks quite innocent. Everybody else could be either way.

My own and Uglúk's relations to the evil wizard look the worst to me. I will not waste my time on dwelling my own misguided opinions and Radagast's eagerness to support me, but instead I will say a few words about the Orc. Radagast's willingness to let Uglúk be regardless of his questionable vote seems slightly incriminating. What confuses me is his repeated words about Curunir's wisdom concerning Uglúk. At first it looks like careless non-action-based defense of a companion, but would he really do it this visibly? Isn't he overdoing it? Also, the fact that Uglúk did not mention him at all might speak for a connection between the two.

Radagast and Iarwain's relations are very troubling. Their first dance of supporting and suspecting each other looks rather suspicious, but I would like to repeat that I find it unlikely that Iarwain would have spotlighted (Elbereth forgive me for using such a word) Radagast in the manner he did yesterday when Radagast was rather safe, if they indeed were comrades in treachery.

Radagast and Galadriel's relations would be quite incriminating (especially suspicious was Galadriel's declaration of the wizard's innocence), but what makes me hesitate is Radagast's repeated questioning of where Galadriel is. It would be odd if he would wonder that aloud of a partner in crime and do it more than once.

As for Radagast and Elrohir, it looks quite bad - except for Radagast's vote. Would he have voted to banish his companion at a situation like that? It would have been risky but he might even have done that...

And Radagast's relations to Dáin and Halbarad do not tell me anything..."
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