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Old 01-16-2008, 03:51 PM   #11
Sauron the White
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from MatthewM

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With due respect to the board, I will not say the word that I would love to say right now, directly to you, "Sauron the White" (that makes sense, BTW...) Rest assured it would be insulting. Anyway, NO, it did not take me over five years to figure that one out, so how about you stop jumping to conclusions. I have been well aware of the fact that Théoden's age was changed.
If you have something to say, please, get it off your chest, step up to the mic and say it loud and proud. I am not a child and can take it. Just so nobody jumps to any conclusions, please provide me with a link to where you brought this up five years ago so we can put that charge to rest and move on.

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And where does it say that the actor should not be portrayed like he was in the books?
Perhaps you are inexperienced or very young and do not know how these things work so allow me to help you acquire some basic understanding. You ask me to show you a negative..... something that does NOT happen. You will discover that one cannot prove a negative. In point of fact, and it has already been brought out here by others, Bernard Hill was an actor approaching sixty years old - fifty-eight to be exact. At the time of his death in the books, I believe Theoden was seventy-two. Both were indeed older men in the last section of thie lives. And Hill did portray an older man, enfeebled by Saruman, who was facing the challenges of his own doubts about his rule and place with his ancestors who he believed were superior to him.

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I did not see anything comical about your post. In fact, I believe it was corny at its best
Thats okay . People often find it very difficult to laugh or even smile at themselves and their own foibles. You would not be the first to have that charteristic. Its okay.

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People who sleep with the films such as Sauron the White seems to do could tell me until they are blue in the face the reason for the changes made, but I do not buy most of them.
I do not have to spend lengthy time telling you why the changes were made and certainly do not want to turn blue. Its obvious why the changes were made to anyone with an IQ above 75 --- a book and a film are two different things with different constructions, characteristics, demands and ways to tell a story. That should be obvious and a point which is made in mere seconds.

And I have never slept with the films. Not a very rewarding pasttime I would think.

The key question here regarding your post is a simple one: did the character of Theoden work effectively in the context of the film? You seem to feel it did since you describe the performance this way

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I think Bernard Hill did a brilliant job as Théoden
And I stand firmly in agreement with your wise assessment.

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I do love the movies, they are my favorite films of all time
And again, I stand firmly in agreement with that assessment as well.

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I just have problems with a lot of changes that PJ made.
You would have to define your qualifying term "a lot" but I too have problems with some of the film changes as well. Jackson is not perfect, he makes mistakes causing his work to be flawed and not as strong as it otherwise could have been - in my opinion.

Overall however, the films are a spectacular achievement.

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