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Old 01-09-2008, 08:08 PM   #624
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Originally Posted by Legate
No way. If they revealed you lied, you will be lynched and you will be revealed as ORDO - that would be really strange and will probably ruin TP's main purpose, or at least undermine it, as all would wonder why an ordo did such a thing, concluding that TP lies by saying you are an ordo. And the other cobblers, of course, will start to be suspicious.
I'm not so sure that it would have spoiled phantom's ruse. There were enough strange things going on, and the likeliest explanation would have been some secret role which would not be revealed to the end. It's a question of where to draw the line. It might be said, for example, that voting for you (a known innocent) would have been against the strictures laid on us, and I even wondered for a moment whether voting for Farael on Day 4 was strictly within the rules (I decided it was, clearly). Causing confusion and trying to get oneself lynched are, depending on the circumstances, two important weapons in a Cobbler's armoury. Indeed, it is hardly surprising that many of us did not excel in our Cobblerdom, given that some of the oft-used Cobbler tactics were simply not available to us.

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Originally Posted by Volo
SPM, you really haven't changed since Rikae's game.
Well, I can claim to have had a lot of experience as a Cobbler. This must be about my fourth Cobbleresque outing ... although I am not sure if this one really counts. And what is it about me that I am almost always evil if I have a role? Four times a Cobbler, three times a Wolf, once a Hunter and never a Ranger or Seer

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Originally Posted by Nog
I also said to tp that there was something that was overall strange in that voting on Day1.
Well, I certainly felt something strange was going on throughout. All those Wolf-on-Wolf votes! I think that The Might was the only villager never to have voted for a Wolf (with the exception of Rikae, which was unavoidable). Which makes him top Cobbler! I did wonder at one point whether the Wolves had been instructed that they could only vote Wolf-on-Wolf, but there were some votes (only some, mind) which didn't fit that theory. But it made the voting record very unreliable and so made Wolf spotting even more difficult.

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Originally Posted by Volo
It sure is tempting to try the style I used on the first Day of SPM's game, which is to vote the person you suspect the least
Clearly that's the standard Cobblery approach. The problem I found (and it was particularly acute in this game) was that, every time I tried to come up with arguments to suspect someone that I thought innocent, they ended up looking quite plausible, leading me to doubt my original conclusion and start believing the person that I originally thought innocent to be a Wolf (that happened with my views on Mac a few times).

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Originally Posted by Farael
I think I owe y'all an apology 'cos I did not think many pleasant thoughts of most of you that day.... was I ever thinking the whole barrow downs had gone brain-dead!!my oh my...
Teehee. I did feel quite bad about my vote ... for about a second.
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