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Old 11-27-2007, 10:08 AM   #15
Raynor
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Originally Posted by littlemanpoet
Saruman misleads Radagast & many of the Rohirrim but not Eomer and not Gandalf.
I disagree; Gandalf was misled all the way up to the day he was imprisoned.
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As for "too early", Raynor and others, it's an open debate as to what status the Appendices have by way of "IN LotR", as the question was stated. So I'll allow the appendices as part of LotR for the purposes of this discussion.
Then, as said previously, we must include Melkor in the poll. He too is mentioned in the appendices, and, passingly, in the story itself. In fact, it may be said that all the other baddies owe a great deal to him, in terms of the effectiveness of their lying:
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Originally Posted by Of the Voyage of Earendil and the War of Wrath, Silmarillion
Yet the lies that Melkor, the mighty and accursed, Morgoth Bauglir, the Power of Terror and of Hate, sowed in the hearts of Elves and Men are a seed that does not die and cannot be destroyed; and ever and anon it sprouts anew, and will bear dark fruit even unto the latest days.
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