Reflection of Darkness
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull.
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Night 1
Yeah, I don't really have any PMs saved for the first Night. It was basically hellos between Mac and me. Naria didn't show up until Night 2.
Night 2
Getting down to business:
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Originally Posted by Naria
Funny how Gil usually pins the wolf and everyone just dismisses his agruments. Ah well better for us!!
Okay, I have read through the posts and the ones that stand out the most to me are Noggies and Miths. Mith for saying one to many things pointing towards Seerism and Nogrod for his little chat with Rikae at the end, possible Seer? I would however, lean more towards Mith.
We should get some kind of plan for next day. Brinn, I think you are doing pretty good. I may beg the question to everyone why Gil's post is so confusing and a few other things...that way it may put distance between myself and Brinn. Mac, you don't have too much of a problem, but it looks like a few people are going to push for you. And I think, if the Seer is Noggy, you may be dreamt of this Night.
So whom to feast on this Night. Any other candidates?
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Originally Posted by Mac
While Naria is perfectly safe still, and Brinn might only face minor suspicions tomorrow after the votes have been analysed, I have a feeling I might end up being under pressure. Rikae repeated that I've been playing too nice and several are slightly suspicious because of the way I commented on the Rikae-commenters. I also misunderstood the gifted comments of Nogrod and Volo and messed that part up. I didn't exactly help our cause today, I fear. You're right, Naria, I will probably be dreamt of soon. I don't think I'll survive for very long in this game, so I guess you two would be well-advised to keep some distance from me the following days. Don't suspect me too much, but unassertively disagree with my points.
And who shall we kill?
I'd say no to TM, Nerwen, and Sally, because they're new and should get at least two days to play.
I'd say no to Lhuna, who didn't get to post much.
I'd say no to Shasta, who got killed too early recently, and because he will usually end up with some suspicions.
I'd say no to Gil, because I think he will receive some suspicions, too, because of his vote.
I'd say no to Mith, because I killed her first in the last game I was a wolf. I haven't checked her carefully enough to judge whether she could be the seer.
This leaves me only with Kath, Nogrod, Volo, and Legate.
Even though I'm usually scared of Kath, I think she might be useful for us, at least for now.
Nogrod, Volo, and Legate are most dangerous to me at the moment, I think.
The mutual suspicion between Kath and Nogrod is good for us, so Nogrod should be kept, I think.
I know it is hard to say it, but Volo is maybe least harmful to me, because fewer people actually listen to him (let's hope he's no seer again).
This leaves me with Legate. I also think he has never been killed early so far. Do you think he'd be a good candidate for the ranger to protect?
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Originally Posted by Brinn
I agree with Mac: Our newbies Might, Nerwen, and Sally should be left alone for now. I've been killed on Night 2 as a newbie more than once, and it can be quite discouraging. But after toNight, I say they're up for grabs.
Shasta- Killing Shasta would be pure cruel. He gets killed early too much and I know he's been very frustrated about it. I can sympathise.
Lhuna- Would probably be our safest kill. But I'd rather not kill her when she's only posted once with no vote. I've only played with her one other time and I was responsible for her death then (though with reversed roles). But I'd like to see more of Lhuna before eliminating her.
Gil- It's a funny thing about Gil. Indeed, it's true he often pins the right people and gets ignored (I don't think it's the first time he's pinned me). I think it's because of how he goes about his accusations (strong is the best word I can find for it). The problem with his accusations of me is that Volo is right; they're very contradictory. Like always, Gil is a smart one to keep around simply because he never fails to confuse everyone.
Mith- I have a hard time with Mith. I usually think she's either gifted or a wolf, and most often she turns out to be an ordinary. It's possible she's a gifted, but I'm not sure. While I wouldn't mind killing her, I think I'd like to keep her around for at least another Day.
Kath- We have only heard one post from her, but so far she finds both Mac and me to be innocentish. I'm not anxious to kill off someone who is on 2/3 of the balrogs side. Of course, after all that's happened we don't know if she's changed her mind, but for now it's best to let her be. I agree she could be potentially useful.
Nogrod- Would be a very bad idea to kill him. Not only is he heavily suspected, but he heavily suspects Mac. While I don't get any seer vibes from him, it's possible he might be a hunter or ranger. But under the circumstances, he's one of my last choices for a kill.
Legate- Well, I feel he's been trying to be very helpful to the village. I really can't tell whether he is a gifted or not...I need more time. I don't know if he's the best choice to kill; he thinks me innocentish and heavily suspects Mac. It's quite possible that Legate might be the ranger's choice for toNight, simply because he gives off an innocentish vibe. Hard to say.
Volo- I think Volo is our best candidate. He spoken up, but not enough to leave too many tracks. His suspicions of Mac came from one small comment...not as worrysome as other players. Killing him would be a fair choice, and I don't think his death should absolutely condemn any of us.
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Originally Posted by Naria
Lhuna=pure evil. I have played in a few games with her and if she is left alive for too long she can cause some crazy, blindsiding damage. There is a reason why she picked up the nick name of Lhuna-tic. But, she hasn't said or done anything yet to warrant our wrath..so she be left alone for now.
Legate and Volo...hmm yeah, one of those would be our best bet.
Volo would leave less tracks back to us.
Legate is on your butt Mac, but I don't think that it would be too hard for you to weasel your way out of.
So we leave Legate and go for Volo? I'm ok with it.
I understand the feelings surrouding Mith(she usually does turn out to be an ordo), but from a few things she has said in her posts toDay makes me wonder if she could possibly be a gifted this time...meh, maybe next Day will shed more light.
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Originally Posted by Mac
These are just my notes. I had no time to put them into something better-looking.
#28+#30
Legate defends Nogrod, starting with "you never know" and ending with "he gives out normal vibes". A seer who dreamt of an ordo and carefully defends him from suspicion? Nogrod is a likely Night-One dream.
#36+#38
a bit about Nogrod
Volo agrees with him that Rikae isn't gifted
clears up that he said it to protect her from being killed (I still don't understand this)
#47+#48
Volo is suspicious of Gil (who might become a good scapegoat, BUT: people won't lynch him just because he's weird, not in this game now)
disagrees with Nogrod about Kath (good, he's part of the Nog-Kath discussion)
is really upset about Rikae, votes her
#60+#63
Legate is suspicious about me. The reason he gives I think I can "weasle" myself out of (by admitting them and explain in "all honesty"), but it will draw everyone's attention towards them.
again, sees nothing suspicious about Nogrod, without(!) giving any reason (and adding that he is not easy)
would like to vote me most
uh-oh: "maybe I will look at him totally differently when I have time to read all his posts in quiet and calm state" Do you read that the way I do?
In my opinion, Legate is the seer. The way he treats Nogrod made me raise an eyebrow, but what he said about me in the end leaves no doubt, at least to me.
It's possible that he's faking it for some reason (hunter(!)/cobbler) and it's not unlikely that the ranger picked it up as well (and even if he didn't, Legate is alwazs a good one to protect).
If Legate is the seer and survives, he's definitely going to dream of me, so I'm slightly scared.
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Originally Posted by Brinn
Hmm...looking at it, it's quite possible Legate is a seer. But then, why would he make it so obvious? Unless he's trying to make hints to the ranger....I don't know.
Legate may be dangerous to keep alive, but I'm wary about going after him for a kill because I really think he may be a likely candidate for protection. It would really suck if our first kill is the same pick as the ranger's. I also worry that if Legate did die, others may suspect Mac got nervous (though perhaps you could manage to weasle yourself out of that).
I doubt a ranger would pick Volo toNight...he would be our safest bet. My vote still goes for him. Depending on how the Day goes, we can still consider Legate for Night 3.
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Originally Posted by Mac
You are right - he is too obvious. The more I think about it, the more I think he's the hunter, and I wouldn't like to step into his trap. Or maybe he's a seer who's faking to be the hunter who's faking to be the seer? Do you think I'm overcomplicating this?
In any way: he's gifted.
If he's the seer, then I'm done unless we kill him tonight. But of course, even if we try to kill him, he might be protected tonight. We could kill him the next night (and might have to if he's the seer and more obvious), but maybe he's protected then. In that case, you two need to be careful not to make a good dream victim for the next night tomorrow (but you probably weren't planning to do that anyway ).
Let's go for the sinister seer instead. 
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Yeah, so killing our cobbler probably wasn't our best choice. But considering Legate protected himself that Night, picking him could've been much more disastarious. Funny how we seemed to think he was a seer or hunter, but we never thought of Legate as the ranger. Though at that point, I know I wasn't even sure if the ranger could protect himself...
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