Nerwen. You are not making yourself look any better in my eyes, and it seems to me that you are trying to grasp on straws and twist them with some of your responses to me (and going rightaway from defensive against me to offensive against me). Like this:
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Originally Posted by Nerwen
On the whole I thought she was more likely to be the cobbler than the balrog– or if not, that she was acting as a de facto cobbler, and as such was a liability.
(That suggestion originally came from Legate, by the way.)
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Yes, and safe as you always are. Adding words like "by the way" make it seem that you don't rely on this thing, but still you had to say that thing - so that other people notice and may, for example, start to suspect me. That is balrogish.
And similar things.
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Originally Posted by Nerwen
I've re-read the Day 1 posts, and it looks as though a lot of the push to lynch Rikae came from Legate of Amon Lanc himself. Remember his "Rikae's a liar" business?
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That's funny, because all I have posted about
Rikae before people started to vote for her, was just in two posts. And I returned and started to speak more after she already gathered about 5 or 6 or so votes, one of them from
Nerwen herself. And the "liar" business was a joke, as I said, was a joke, was a joke, was a joke, for some reporters with bad ears once again: was a joke (that's not my invention, these are words said by our prime minister several years ago). And I was not the one who first said she can be a cobbler, either - it was mentioned before by
sally. In the second post I made before that, I said that we cannot drop in too many conclusions since Rikae did not comment on her behavior till that time.
In general, in her defense
Nerwen looks that she's kinda exaggerating, maybe intentionally, like in #182:
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At the risk of protesting too much, I'd like to address the “Nerwen lynched Rikae! She must be evil!” argument in a bit more detail.
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Now this is clearly twisting what I said. Mainly, as I said, my suspicion does not lay on you lynching
Rikae, but on you acting as a whole. And the
Rikae-thing is one of the lesser ones. And it does not have anything to do with the fact that you (and obviously only you, as you interpretate my words) lynched
Rikae, indeed, there were many and many people doing that. It's the way HOW you did it; what you said when doing it, the commentary you added.
Nerwen's vote for
Rikae was the FIFTH for her on Day 1. Thus very, very safe.
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Originally Posted by Nerwen
Legate is, at the very least, being a bit of a hypocrite.
I'm not accusing him of balrog-hood at this point, even though he's making what I think is a very dubious case against me. He may have, as he says, got carried away– if so, I feel that what set him off was not really anything I did, but the fact that Macalaure stated his belief in my innocence, more than once.
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Again, acting this safe-way. "I am not accusing him of balrogishness, even though he seems like he is one, see how nice I am?"
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Originally Posted by Nerwen
Well yes, that does look bad for me. Except– would Mac have been so vocal in support of a fellow balrog? Remember, no-one was accusing me then. There was no reason for him to defend me. My own opinion is that his comments about me were simply a blind.
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But
Nerwen, he was not "so vocal". He mentioned you always sideways. On Day 2, when you voted
Gil, he did not mention you at all. As I said, he still kept reasonable distance.
Just look how carefully
Nerwen plays. Yes, it could be that she is just careful, but I think as a balrog, she could be, yes, honey-tongued, that's the word. And then, after the person whom she voted for is lynched and learned innocent, she says "Oh, poor one, I did not want to kill him."
How to put that.
Nerwen's behavior seems like coming from the book "How to act as balrog". That is:
1. Voting for people for whom lots of others may also vote, so her vote gets lost among others.
2. Adding nice comments that make her stay reserved in the cases she builds. If people are not willing to catch on the hook she's putting forward, she can always say "Ah yes, true, I'm not going to vote for that one after all, anyway I already said before that it's not a balrog."
Oh, and concerning the "missing post" thing.
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Originally Posted by Nerwen
Legate, in his list of my posts, has left out one. He says I only made two posts. I made three.
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I did not say you only made two posts, I mentioned only two posts. The other was an analysis of
Volo and I believe it had nothing specially important to say to us (or different from what stemmed from the other posts). Yes, I could have mentioned it at least, but I was really tired to go through it better (
Volo did not know whether
Nerwen is a balrog or not and vice versa, so hardly anything to conclude*) and I was copying and still a bit re-writing the post as I split it into two (as I'm saying in the post before the one where I analyze
Nerwen).
*Hey, maybe yes! Now when you mentioned it,
Nerwen, thanks for mentioning that. Since this post (#108) was sent at the time
Volo was revealed to be a Cobbler, your (if you were a balrog) post analyzing a Cobbler could have differenced yourself from him subconsciously in the minds of the others. You in fact also disqualified
Mac as a balrog saying:
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Originally Posted by Nerwen
Some scenarios to play with:
1. Gil-galad and Macalaure are werebalrogs. Volo was killed for accusing them. Simple– and rather dumb.
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And it might have served you that
Volo, as you say in your post, "attacked" (your words)
Macalaure, but "defended" you. Also a tiny thing, but the ambivalent view is not putting you and
Mac together.
As I said, I do
not give much value to this one post, but the above states whether and how you could have used it had you been a balrog.
Now, only one technical thing:
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Originally Posted by Naria
I believe that TM dreamt of Legate on pre-game Night one. He then dreamt of Mac on Night one, then dreamt of Nog Night two.
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A note,
Naria, we don't know of whom he dreamt on Night 2 - he died before he could tell us. On Day 2, he had two dreams to work with.
I am going to look at other people than
Nerwen now. But I guess I said what I wanted about her and you can make a picture out of that.