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Old 10-09-2007, 02:38 PM   #9
Raynor
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Originally Posted by davem
Can we compare the corrupting influence of the Ring & the destructive influence of Morgoth's curse?
In my opinion: hardly. We have little evidence to figure out how much difference did the curse make, other than some self-fulfilling prophecy. It just may be that the curse it is a scarecrow and nothing more. Moreover, it doesn't look like one can escape a curse - other than being released. We could try to compare this curse to the curse on Isildur's Dead Men, though the stone of Erech might have played some part in the curse's power, or the morality itself of the wrongdoers deed (or even their self conscious) - it's a rather complicated comparison. On the other hand, it looks like at least one person was able to escape from the power of the ring, Bilbo (and Sam, to a lesser extent, since he bore it far less time).
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Both Boromir & Turin seek glory - Boromir through the Ring, Turin in spite of the Curse
Hm, I wonder if achieving glory for Turin wasn't somehow helped by the curse, since it would make his fall all the harder..
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In CoH the 'moral' seems to be: 'Whatever you do, evil will win out'
I would say evil winning out is a close call. I believe it is a pertinent question if Turin didn't inflict far more damage on Melkor because of the curse - than if there weren't any curse at all. In that case, Melkor's opportunity cost may be far greater by inflicting the curse, thus losing overall. Turin's dire conditions might have proved to be a powerful motivator.
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"Sorry - a lot of rambling musings there"
My post follows that path too...
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