Hi all,
interesting discussion here, but on this issue I think I side with Galin.
In my view orcs etc can be organised like this-
1- Orcs
1a- snagas, mountain maggots, 'The Hobbit' goblins -small orcs
1b- everyday orcs, Grishnakh's company, majority of Mordor orcs - medium orcs
1c- Uruks and Uruk-Hai of Mordor and Isengard - big orcs
2- Halforcs ie man-orcs, orc-men, goblin-men - Saruman's speciality
2a- Halforcs that are obviously orcish
2b- Halforcs that could be mistaken for men
Are there Uruk-hai in Mordor? Yes indeed- according to the tracker in Mordor
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then it must be a pack of rebel Uruk-hai; or maybe it's the whole lot together
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Are halforcs and Saruman's Uruks different? I think UT implies this at the Battles of the fords of the Isen with
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the sudden assault of the massed Uruks
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followed a few lines later by
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there appeared a company of men or orc-men
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and
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Theodred fell, hewn down by a great orc-man
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where its clear that the elite company of orc-men is different from the heavily armed Uruks.
To say nothing of Aragorn's comments