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Old 06-03-2007, 07:49 AM   #150
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Originally Posted by Volo
This is however something I'd toss aside quite quickly as it was already used in Gil-Galad's game.
Well, that it has been used earlier doesn't mean it can't be used again.

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What can be done at the moment: Find who might have suspected Menel enough to kill him, if it's not a Bear,
Well, I think that's not much of a good idea. If it's not a Bear, it's most likely an innocent assassin (nice combination of words) who is on our side, and an innocent certainly wouldn't want him to be discovered. Only a wolf (and not even a bear, since the answer would be himself) would advice such a thing. Should I start suspecting you, Volo?

Now to the debate of possible enemies. As we were speculating about two Wolf teams, I'll also note Mith's words from yesterDay:
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Originally Posted by Mithalwen
I have had a look at the narrative and the only firm conclusion I drew was that there is more than one gifted "those among you", and more than one wolf - probably more than two since, I think it would be unusual and technically incorrect ot use some when referring to two. Two wolves in such a large village would be suprising but there is a precedent
It's quite interesting now, because as Aganzir said, if there were two wolf teams, I'd also expect no more than two wolves in each. Could it be possible that Mith were a member of one of these two teams and, having just one colleague, was "testing water" for what's around? I know, it will be pretty stupid for a Wolf, since they'd risk getting the other team's attention, as well as informing the village that they are just two. If it were not just a "scream of wonder", it's probably just another of my unbelievable constructs.

But actually, personally I feel still closest to the possibility that we have wolves (three?) who killed Rune, a Bear who killed Menel, and Durelin who was killed by Wolves in turn. About the "spying" thing, you are right, Aganzir... but why is then Durelin named a "thief" and not a "spy"? Also, how would you explain the things from collected from thefts in her house? The most logical explanation, in my opinion, would be then that she was something like a thief/spy, using one of two abilities every night, like it was in Rikae's game with Lommy. And it would be either stealing or spying someone (like a Seer?). If this were true, then it might actually help us with several things: the roles and the explanation of yesterday's kills. You see:
  • Either Durelin had just a spying ability and in that case we probably have lost our Seer Apart from that I really hope it's not the case, I don't even find it likely, since thief is thief and generally is not much interested in helping others.
  • Or she had this "combined" ability (it'll be quite good to be able to learn people's roles in combination with stealing them). The uses might have been even limited. In that case, I'd suppose at least one more "ordinary" Seer on our side, but to balance it, a Werebear. I think this will go together nicely, since Durelin wouldn't also be 100% "good" in this case, as well as the Bear.
  • Durelin could simply "steal", which, as you pointed out, is not much logical, as the narration indeed speaks more about watching something. In this case however, we could expect another role of some sort of assassin on our side to counterbalance Durelin's, slightly havoc-creating, role.

In the cases #1 and #3, I'd presume the existence of an assassin as likely (unless we have the party of combined roles like the last time, like thief/spy, ranger/assassin, whatever else). In #1 it would probably mean then that we are not having the "normal" Gifted roles (Ranger, Hunter, Seer) but some little twist (Assassin instead of R or H, Thief instead of a Seer). However, as I said earlier, I don't think it probable. In case #2, it will be logical that no assassin exists and then that it was a Bear who killed Menel. And it actually seems the most logical to me, because both the words of "thief" and "spying" point to some sort of a "mix role".

So that's about it. I hope it won't distract from hunting Wolves, but just my thoughts on that matter, and I think it might be useful. Even more we'll know tomorrow ( ). Will be back yet.
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