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Nogrod · 06-02-2007, 06:20 PM

Okay.

There are different "fractions" in this game and we should remeber this when we make judgements on others. The familiar logic of all the baddies knowing each other vs. all the blind goodies doesn't work here. And there may even be something like an odd fraction to muddy the waters even more. So possibly not two sides but three. I think this is important to remember while we make our analyses or form our judgements.

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Durelin's death I find interesting as it hides this enigma of a thief. So was there a relation of her role to the fact she got killed?

The easier version as I said surely makes it just a coincidence. The wolves wanted to kill Dury while Dury was up to the wolves, probably one of them. In this direction Dury has left us no hints whatsoever as she practically didn't discuss anyone yesterDay (see the value of speaking and actually saying something!!! we could do with some such clues right now!). The only thing we have here is Kath... She did vote her anyway. But would Kath-wolf wish to kill the one who had totally randomly voted for her with nothing of substance on Day1? I think that she could do it. No one who has played with her would believe a claim that she was worried about Dury and wished to do away with her. So no one would believe she was involved when Dury dies...

But what if there's a role that only kills during the Night if it's been acted upon (like the hunting, killing, dreaming, thiefing...) then the only person we might find to make sense that Dury was going to "thief" is... Kath again. I could even imagine a ruling that you must vote for a person you wish to steal her/his role from to add on your own repertoire the next Night or something. That would be an interesting role indeed!

Sorry, but I'm no cobbler. I just try to think things out...

Whichever way I look at Dury's death it still confirms my feeling that Kath is up to something that is not good.

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Boro had a good point on Isabellkaya. Her last actions do look pretty bad indeed. But the same can be said of The Sixth as well and his vote on Dury at the last moments some minutes before. The situation was quite similar. In Isabellkaya's case the softening factor is her newbieness, in Sixth's case it is his assurations in both this and the admin. thread that he had overslept and had just waken up. I mean that I have been involved in those last minute madnesses many times and must admit that they may be quite messy. Even one moderator once lost the track of the situation... *cough Mac cough*

Still I think we should look at them both toDay more carefully.

EDIT: X'd with Kath

06-02-2007, 06:20 PM	#132
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Okay. There are different "fractions" in this game and we should remeber this when we make judgements on others. The familiar logic of all the baddies knowing each other vs. all the blind goodies doesn't work here. And there may even be something like an odd fraction to muddy the waters even more. So possibly not two sides but three. I think this is important to remember while we make our analyses or form our judgements. ---- Durelin's death I find interesting as it hides this enigma of a thief. So was there a relation of her role to the fact she got killed? The easier version as I said surely makes it just a coincidence. The wolves wanted to kill Dury while Dury was up to the wolves, probably one of them. In this direction Dury has left us no hints whatsoever as she practically didn't discuss anyone yesterDay (see the value of speaking and actually saying something!!! we could do with some such clues right now!). The only thing we have here is Kath... She did vote her anyway. But would Kath-wolf wish to kill the one who had totally randomly voted for her with nothing of substance on Day1? I think that she could do it. No one who has played with her would believe a claim that she was worried about Dury and wished to do away with her. So no one would believe she was involved when Dury dies... But what if there's a role that only kills during the Night if it's been acted upon (like the hunting, killing, dreaming, thiefing...) then the only person we might find to make sense that Dury was going to "thief" is... Kath again. I could even imagine a ruling that you must vote for a person you wish to steal her/his role from to add on your own repertoire the next Night or something. That would be an interesting role indeed! Sorry, but I'm no cobbler. I just try to think things out... Whichever way I look at Dury's death it still confirms my feeling that Kath is up to something that is not good. ---- Boro had a good point on Isabellkaya. Her last actions do look pretty bad indeed. But the same can be said of The Sixth as well and his vote on Dury at the last moments some minutes before. The situation was quite similar. In Isabellkaya's case the softening factor is her newbieness, in Sixth's case it is his assurations in both this and the admin. thread that he had overslept and had just waken up. I mean that I have been involved in those last minute madnesses many times and must admit that they may be quite messy. Even one moderator once lost the track of the situation... cough Mac cough Still I think we should look at them both toDay more carefully. EDIT: X'd with Kath __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...