[Volo]

I see that there are problems with the time... Well, I have problems with that too. Hmm... Ok, I'll start the game when we get 20 players. I'll spam about this game via PM.

Originally Posted by Roa

Volo, yes, I meant via PM. One big advantage that the Vampires have over the villagers is their ability to communicate. With the advantages they already have, we could at least have them share that with the good gifted.

I don't know about this... After all, the Villagers will outnumber the Vampires, and giving the Good Gifteds the ability to PM will make them nearly as strong as the Vampires. Remember that through the lynch seer system we'll get many nearly known Good people!

Originally Posted by SPM

While allowing Gifted villagers to communicate would redress the balance to a degree, I have never been much of a fan of Gifted villagers being able to communicate (with limited exceptions, such as Shirrifs) as I think it detracts from two of the aspects of the game that I enjoy - the isolation of being a villager (whether Gifted or ordo) and the challenge of trying to work out who's who by oneself (or rather, when one can only trust one's own thoughts). Similarly, if the Vampires have a Seer, part of the challenge for them disappears.

The Vampire Seer won't replace the Vampires' need for logical thinking. The VSeer can go wrong and dream about an Ordo. Also I'll post the role to the VSeer in the end of the Night, so that it won't be able to tell it before the next Night starts.

Originally Posted by SPM

Incidentally, if the village Seer dreams of a Vampire, will they discover that Vampire's specific role or simply that he/she is a Vampire?

Haven't thought about this. Both are fine with me, though I prefer that the specific role won't be told. I don't think this will matter too much.

Couldn't the kill list issue be avoided if you require the subject of the riddle, if posted, to post a "victim" within 12 hours of the end of the Day? There may be time issues, I suppose. Is everyone able to check in every twelve hours? It shouldn't affect the Vampire discussions too much anyway, as they could still discuss potential kills in the meantime and decide on a "back-up" kill if their first choice is taken down by the lynch seer.

The Night is full of chaos... I don't think I'll make any rules about when what should happen, as long as it happens during the night. This game is sadly very effected by when people can be online. The Lynch Seer process can filled with strategy: If the Lynch Seer posts the riddle early, the Vampires will get hints whom not to kill, if the Lynch Seer posts the riddle late, the To-be-lynched person might not get a chance to post his/her victims name. The later the To-be-lynched person posts the name of his/her victim, the bigger the probability that the Vampires will try killing an already dead person. But the same goes for the Gifteds, the less time they have to chose a person who's not dead already.

Originally Posted by SPM

Also, am I right in understanding that we wil all know our own riddle? It seems to me that it might be more fun if we did not, and so the lych seer has to solve the riddle before being able to post a "victim". Only problem with that, I suppose, is that people might post a victim on the off-chance that they are the lynch seer.

You'll know the riddle about yourself (Kath, we should better start thinking about these.).

I don't fully understand what you're saying there.
The Lynch Seer won't know whose riddle it is for sure when he/she posts it.
The Lynch Seer doesn't chose the victim, he/she choses only if the To-be-lynched person may chose a victim.

Originally Posted by SPM

Finally, while games with much in excess of 20 players can be fun, they can also be very difficult to get to grips with as a player and so extremely time-consuming. As someone whose time constraints often conflicts with my desire to participate fully, that does slightly concern me.

I agree that the first day will be hard for everybody, but after it the number of players will drop quickly.

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

*was directed here by a friend* If y'all don't mind me jumping in, I'd like to sign up.

Welcome! Here's the thread where you can introduce yourself. Be aware that this game might be hard for beginners. Wish fun to you and everybody else!