[QUOTE=Thenamir]Alright, Neithan Tol Turambar, I'm calling you out. Your verbose and insufferable tirades, your name-calling, and your general attitude (not to mention your deluded self-proclamation as Lord Sauron's "herald and messenger") have earned you the negative rep you so richly deserve. Prepare to defend yourself.
In your introductory post on the "Introduce yourself here" thread, you posted the following:
Now aside from the fact that you revere the Learned Professor's work so much that
you can't even spell his name correctly, your entire premise in beginning and carrying on this thread is entirely antithetical to every spoken and written opinion of Tolkien himself. I
defy you to produce one iota, a single scintilla of evidence to show that
Tolkien himself, whom you claim to revere and defend, intended that Melkor (or Sauron) was the master, savior, and liberator which you claim. Otherwise you are attempting to alter and revise that work of which you say
I agree with that sentiment, and I here and now accuse you of that vile and atrocious arrogance and call you to defend your position against the following quotes from LOTR and the Silmarillion (words of
Tolkien himself! ), reproduced from an earlier discussion on a similar topic.
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Morgoth:
Quote:
...Thus with lies and evil whisperings and false counsel Melkor kindled the hearts of the Noldor to strife; and of their quarrels came at length the end of the high days of Valinor
Sauron:
So, now, let's review. Even for Lalwendė who has her fingers in her ears and isn't listening anymore. 
- Arrogant and contemptful of everything except themselves
- Liars without shame
- Selfish in the extreme
- Use fear and intimidation to dominate other wills
- Turn good things to evil purposes
- Usurpers of the rightful realms of others
- Coveting everything for themselves
- Appear in dark and terrible forms
- Tortured, maimed, killed, enslaved, perverted the elves
- Completely loveless
- Envious, jealous and bitter
- Ever striving to insert strife and dissent
- Cunning dissemblers and deceivers
- Instrumental in the downfall of Numenor and the consequent deaths of almost an entire race
- And in the end complete losers and failures.
Now you tell me how you can simultaneously maintain your mutually-contradicting positions of "Melkor is the Benevolent Savior and Master" and "Tolkien's work is untouchable. "
I respectfully look forward to your reply.
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You have agreed with me in a circular way at every point, but cannot make the proper conclusion at the end of your reasoning. Let me say this: I agree with you.
What incredible examples of the worlds finest writer. I thank you. For Tolkien was, I firmly believe the finest writer of all time and his passages arouse in me the most brilliant and compelling visions I have ever experienced. He can conjure up images of power so strong I feel them and see them he moves me!!!!
Your right. Tolkien did write those passages. He also wrote the narrative of Morgoth's perspective, an inseperable part of the whole. Melkor has glory within the revelation as an inextricably intertwined part of the story without which[EVIL] their can be no good. Think Man! By God you are at the very door!!
IN THE ABSENCE OF DARKNESS LIGHT HAS NO GLORY. EVIL REFLECTS THE GLORY OF GOD.
I laboriously type again....
"Then Illuvatar spoke, and he said: 'Mighty are the Ainur, and mightiest among them is Melkor; but that he may know, and all the Ainur, that I am Illuvatar, those things that ye have sung, I will show them forth, that ye may see what ye have done. And thou, "Melkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not it's uttermost source in me, nor can any alter the music in my despite. For he that attempteth this shall prove but mine instrument in the devising of things more wonderful, which he himself hath not imagined.'
Now you think about that. And if you still don't know what I am doing here, then I declare outside of all eccentricity and sarcasim and from the depths of my true heart say to you sir you have no understanding. Please do not react, THINK.