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Originally Posted by Raynor
Ok, let me ask you again: if a person considers that rape, torture unnecessary killings and destructions, & co are immoral, then isn't it a contradiction in terms between <<to derrive pleasure from tales of rape, torture, etc>> and <<claiming to be moral>>?
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Well, let me ask you, just because you do not distinguish between reality & fantasy do you expect everyone to be bound by the same condition?
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First of all, I mentioned truism in my very last post. Second of all, which of my posts can be interpreted as to mean that I was not in fact reffering to a person who already accepts these moral values (i.e. that ideas/feelings/propensities of torture,rape, kilings are immoral)?
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And I was referring to a person who can distinguish between events in a fantasy world & events in real life.
So, back to the Vampire thing - is playing the Witch-king or Sauron in a M-e role-playing or strategy game (a computer or board game of which there are a few around) & throwing oneself into the game with gusto 'immoral'? Is choosing to play such a character an immoral act? Or do you think the player is capable of thinking 'Its only a game'? In the same way is a reader who chooses to side with Morgoth actually 'immoral'?
TBH, I think this is going around in circles - as it must, I suppose, in a debate where whenever one backs ones opponent into a corner he simply responds by denying he was ever in the room...
I therefore, am happy to leave things at this impasse......