[Mänwe]

And all the talkers are assembled here, sniping away at one another. The talkers ought to talk less before those who talk less become talkers themselves. Besides talk can just as much make things difficult as easy. I say all here apart from myself have the musky taint of evil about them, to coin an earlier phrase. Nogrod, Roa, Saucepan Man, Kitanna, be you the four faithfuls.

Nogrod, have you perchance merely not heard my questions, or does your ignoring them hide a darker truth? Ahhh the power of rhetoric, not lost among simple folk such as I, fisherman, renowned for it. A well known fishermans tale;

One fisherman has a hook deep in his wrist.
Second fisherman, "Whoose fault was it?"

No need for an answer, the answer is within the first fisherman, yet he chose not to give it. As you have done, with no answer it is 'your fault'. I sense denial in you, something that itches to be released, beneath a full moon perhaps?

Seems to me everyone picks upon Glirdan from the start, Roa, Nogrod are you using this to deflect any insinuations upon yourselves?