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Yerniel Vénea · 06-16-2002, 11:07 PM

After doing some research, because I don't recognize what VanimaEdhel posted as a translation as Quenya, I found a different result.

the verb to free is not what you'd want because free in this context is used as an adjective. We (subject) are (verb) free (adjective). If you were saying "we free..." then the grammatical dissection would be we (sub) free(verb). If you wanted to say you were in the act of doing the freeing then you would say "we are freeing..." and the dissection of that would be we (sub) are (auxiliery verb) freeing (gerund). Wow, i probably confused you a lot! Sorry just want you to understand. Languages are definitely more complex than one realizes!

Anyway, the Quenya verb "to free" is "fainu-" fyi.

the adjective "free" as in "we are free" is "latin(a)" you would need to have plural agreement, if you are using the sub "we" and not if you are using "I." so use "latin" for "I" and "latinë" for "we"

the interjection "at last!" is "yallumë"

now the subjects are a different story. If you are using "I" then the ending you would want is "-nyë" but just an "-n" can do. So with the verb "na-" to be it would be "nan" or "nanyë." With we it is way more difficult. If you are including everyone, you'd use the "we inclusive" which is "-lmë" if you are using the "we exclusive" then it is "-mmë." If you are talking to another person and you mean to say, the two of us, it is "-lv-." I assume you want to say "we are free at last" as in the whole student body. So I would say: "Naralmë latinë yallumë!" and you would stress the the phrase: NarALmë LAtinë YALlumë.

We exclusive: "Narammë latinë yallumë!" Stress: NarAMmë LAtinë YALlumë

two of us: "Naralvë...."
Stress: NarALvë...

I am free...: "Nan latin yallumë!" or "Nanyë latin yallumë!"
Stress: 1st syllable of every word

Ok, there are plenty of grammatical things I did not discuss because I now assume I have bored you to death or confused you beyond repair. I have only tried to help!
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06-16-2002, 11:07 PM	#17
Yerniel Vénea Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ithilien Posts: 24	After doing some research, because I don't recognize what VanimaEdhel posted as a translation as Quenya, I found a different result. the verb to free is not what you'd want because free in this context is used as an adjective. We (subject) are (verb) free (adjective). If you were saying "we free..." then the grammatical dissection would be we (sub) free(verb). If you wanted to say you were in the act of doing the freeing then you would say "we are freeing..." and the dissection of that would be we (sub) are (auxiliery verb) freeing (gerund). Wow, i probably confused you a lot! Sorry just want you to understand. Languages are definitely more complex than one realizes! Anyway, the Quenya verb "to free" is "fainu-" fyi. the adjective "free" as in "we are free" is "latin(a)" you would need to have plural agreement, if you are using the sub "we" and not if you are using "I." so use "latin" for "I" and "latinë" for "we" the interjection "at last!" is "yallumë" now the subjects are a different story. If you are using "I" then the ending you would want is "-nyë" but just an "-n" can do. So with the verb "na-" to be it would be "nan" or "nanyë." With we it is way more difficult. If you are including everyone, you'd use the "we inclusive" which is "-lmë" if you are using the "we exclusive" then it is "-mmë." If you are talking to another person and you mean to say, the two of us, it is "-lv-." I assume you want to say "we are free at last" as in the whole student body. So I would say: "Naralmë latinë yallumë!" and you would stress the the phrase: NarALmë LAtinë YALlumë. We exclusive: "Narammë latinë yallumë!" Stress: NarAMmë LAtinë YALlumë two of us: "Naralvë...." Stress: NarALvë... I am free...: "Nan latin yallumë!" or "Nanyë latin yallumë!" Stress: 1st syllable of every word Ok, there are plenty of grammatical things I did not discuss because I now assume I have bored you to death or confused you beyond repair. I have only tried to help! *************************** Laita Ilúvatar! __________________ Laita Ilúvatar! "But what?" said Gandalf. "Only one but will I allow tonight."