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Macalaure · 12-27-2006, 11:03 AM

Eomer of the Rohirrim:

First Dance:

86
Some cobbler theory. His points is that theory about them is okay, but actual accusations of cobblery are useless.
Rikae and Farael (and Cailín, of course) are innocent to him, he gives reasons
Kath, Valier, Naria and Lalwende are suspicious, no reasons

88+96
More cobbler theory

107
Accuses Nogrod of using his smilies as a tactic
Defends his cobbler theorism

117
Agrees with Nogrod to turn to more pressing issues
Jokingly accuses Holby of scaremongering

124
Votes his suspect Kath to avoid double lynching

125
Starts talking about the time near the deadline

Everything he says makes sense. He avoids to be aggressive or argumentative about his suspicions. His vote is reasonable. Perfect good guy.
Too perfect good guy to me, but this is just the first dance, and if you don't have a good argument against someone, it's better not to make one up.

Second Dance:

136
Apologises to Kath
Thinks Rikae and morm innocent because of Kitanna's death, doubts wolves would play so risky at this stage

183
Says Kitanna was killed because of her vote or voters
Reaches the conclusion that Valier is suspicious, mostly because she reached different conclusions than he
Believes Nogrod is innocent

197
Suspicious about Folwren because of her defense
Votes Valier saying: "Even if we fail today (mathematically probable) we have good stuff to look back on the coming days."

On its own, his suspicions or Valier are not suspicious. But at this time we have already two votes for and a devastating accusal by Nogrod of her. Eomer obviously doesn't want to upset too many people by being suspicious of them. The one he goes after is someone who is already on the list of many others. His suspicion of Folwren falls into the same category, I think.
Then there's the sentence I quoted. I've seen many a wolf saying things like that to not make people worry about a lynched innocent.

Third Dance:

226
Rhetorical questions about Naria (including use of smilies)
Says everything about her is suspicious

231
Asks Naria what I said that made her change her vote. Doesn't see anything revolutionary in what I said
Says he doesn't need to elaborate why everything about Naria is suspicious

252
Rikae's death is over-analysed
Defends himself against my suspicion, bringing the smilies up again
Says I'm scaremongering and trying "to whip up an anti-Eomer frenzy"

261
Says Valier's suspicious because of her confusion
Says that the remaining wolf has to do an incredible job, so there's no reason to worry
Thinks we should no longer distinguish between supposed cobblers and supposed wolves.

Again, he goes after the one who is already high on many people's radar. The way he does it is highly suspicious in my mind, using rhetorical questions and giving no solid reasons besides smilies. I wonder why he's trying to lead us away from looking at Rikae.
I think his last post goes over the top. Sure, our chances are pretty good right now, but there's surely no reason for us to be as careless as he wants us to. Especially not with two cobblers around.

I'm testing the waters with:

++Eomer

I hope somebody joins me, if not, I'll be looking for something else. I see a showdown between morm and Naria coming.

12-27-2006, 11:03 AM	#266
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	Eomer of the Rohirrim: First Dance: 86 Some cobbler theory. His points is that theory about them is okay, but actual accusations of cobblery are useless. Rikae and Farael (and Cailín, of course) are innocent to him, he gives reasons Kath, Valier, Naria and Lalwende are suspicious, no reasons 88+96 More cobbler theory 107 Accuses Nogrod of using his smilies as a tactic Defends his cobbler theorism 117 Agrees with Nogrod to turn to more pressing issues Jokingly accuses Holby of scaremongering 124 Votes his suspect Kath to avoid double lynching 125 Starts talking about the time near the deadline Everything he says makes sense. He avoids to be aggressive or argumentative about his suspicions. His vote is reasonable. Perfect good guy. Too perfect good guy to me, but this is just the first dance, and if you don't have a good argument against someone, it's better not to make one up. Second Dance: 136 Apologises to Kath Thinks Rikae and morm innocent because of Kitanna's death, doubts wolves would play so risky at this stage 183 Says Kitanna was killed because of her vote or voters Reaches the conclusion that Valier is suspicious, mostly because she reached different conclusions than he Believes Nogrod is innocent 197 Suspicious about Folwren because of her defense Votes Valier saying: "Even if we fail today (mathematically probable) we have good stuff to look back on the coming days." On its own, his suspicions or Valier are not suspicious. But at this time we have already two votes for and a devastating accusal by Nogrod of her. Eomer obviously doesn't want to upset too many people by being suspicious of them. The one he goes after is someone who is already on the list of many others. His suspicion of Folwren falls into the same category, I think. Then there's the sentence I quoted. I've seen many a wolf saying things like that to not make people worry about a lynched innocent. Third Dance: 226 Rhetorical questions about Naria (including use of smilies) Says everything about her is suspicious 231 Asks Naria what I said that made her change her vote. Doesn't see anything revolutionary in what I said Says he doesn't need to elaborate why everything about Naria is suspicious 252 Rikae's death is over-analysed Defends himself against my suspicion, bringing the smilies up again Says I'm scaremongering and trying "to whip up an anti-Eomer frenzy" 261 Says Valier's suspicious because of her confusion Says that the remaining wolf has to do an incredible job, so there's no reason to worry Thinks we should no longer distinguish between supposed cobblers and supposed wolves. Again, he goes after the one who is already high on many people's radar. The way he does it is highly suspicious in my mind, using rhetorical questions and giving no solid reasons besides smilies. I wonder why he's trying to lead us away from looking at Rikae. I think his last post goes over the top. Sure, our chances are pretty good right now, but there's surely no reason for us to be as careless as he wants us to. Especially not with two cobblers around. I'm testing the waters with: ++Eomer I hope somebody joins me, if not, I'll be looking for something else. I see a showdown between morm and Naria coming.