Day 1
Quote:This really is a bit of a Donald Rumsfeld farewell game ... known unknowns and no doubt many unknown unknowns.... so stabbing in the dark may be order of the day.... Reinforces the random nature of the game and could have been calculated to induce a sense of pessimism within the village. A pessimistic village, it seems to me better serves a Wolf, rather than the village itself. –
No this was a simple statement of the situation on day 1 not reinforcing anything.. And I was referring to the day one choice in particular.
I had no theory to offer so stuck to fact as contribution……
Not really in either category - I was spectacularly lucky in my successful wolvish outing. Ayway I'm not a wolf this time so... I maybe the weakest link .. the innocent you could most afford to lose... but I hope it won't be goodbye just yet ... this is befuddling but far from dull and I would like to stay a while......
Again simple fact – I am not blind to my own faults ..and since in Werewolf someone is bound ot point them out..may as well get in first …. It has been a blast… I played basically because I owed Fea a favour but I have enjoyed it ….
I am inclined to think that the Pan Man is innocent because it makes more sense ... it would be a bit risky and attention seeking for so early in the discussion. But while I am good at spotting a cobblerish Pan Man I find it hard to read him when he plays a less ambiguous role .... but I could vote for him to maintain the tradition if you so wish .. but I don't think it would be a great choice ...
The phantom is not a priority either ... he is being quite constructive... and tooo obvious
As the phantom noted, this post is interesting, given that it is the two of us who are left with her at the end.
I kept changing my mind …. No change there…. Really believed whoever I read last …
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I can't resist but though it be madness there is a little method in it... I do have to go now. I feel a vote for any of my other random suspects might be too significant at this early stage. I feel votes are going to be very spread out and two or three might be enough to seal someone's fate.... on this most random of first days I shall be completely random .... and risk the consequences if my fellow villagers think I am copping out... which is a valid perspective but heigh ho.... Seeks to explain her “random” vote for Bêthberry in reasonable terms, possibly aware that it is a relatively high-risk strategy for a Wolf to draw such attention to herself on Day 1.
Well yes but in the last games I played innocents and gifteds were lynched for the slightest things. Given that we knew nothing, and people often look fo ran excuse to vote on day one… it was high risk for anyone to give ammunition. And I could not know that noone else would follow my quixotic lead. Lynching BB wouldnot have helped a wolvish Mith.
Day 2
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Fea's narration does suggest Morm was a wolf but better to assume we have two to find....
.Introducing uncertainty as to the number of Wolves left - suits a Wolf more than it suits the village i did not introduce the uncertainty I merely commented on it. I don’t know how reminding people of possibilities is wolf-friendly. I seem to remember noone taking the 2 owls option seriously either …….
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My vote for BB was half punt in response to the unknown situation ... ...half course of action least likely to cause harm....... had I been a wolf I would erred on the side of not being so attention seeking.. and not giving the rest of you an easy excuse to lynch me in absentia.
Staunch defence of her vote for Bêthberry - suits a Wolf to seek to establish as early as possible that it was not the likely vote of a Wolf.
Also suits an innocent to point out innocence….
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No, it is what I expected after mormegil's role was not specified... Fea was unlikely ot waive the divine right of moderators . We are her Lab rats and she will want as much amusement as possible. She has waited a long time for this and was so certain on who she wanted ... she has a purpose ...... whether there is any system or code that will allow us to understand or whether we are dependant simply on luck I am not sure.
Personally I am going to roll with it....and see what happens....
Again, emphasising the randomness of the game might be seen as suiting a Wolf better than an innocent.
Or might be seen as an fatalistic innocent saying che sera sera and letting herself off too much note taking…..
Oh yes... I wonder if there is any point in us speculating why each of us was chosen? I assume I was to be a loose cannon ... which is not something I am actively trying to be but is often a by-product of my personality ....
Would fit the idea we have of what Fea intended for this game – a “loose canon” Wolf.
Whatever else I am I am not an immoral religious……
Again ..statement of fact … is it so hard for lawyers to believe anyone honest ….?
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Yes that is one of the things that annoys me ..I mean TP is not known for his modesty but the implication that only the Pan man is clever enough to be worth communicating with is a little insulting ... but what do I know ... having announced me strange for my vote and then dismissed as being too random to be a threat to the wolves ... Quote:
Might this be Wolfish discomfort at the attempts of the phantom and I to explore the possibility of forming an uneasy alliance?No I was genuinely narked at being patronised - given that family nicknames included “plank” and “bimbo” and having been the youngest for the best part of a couple of decades ..being told to run along and play while the grown ups talk seriously, is liable to rankle…..
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I will throw in my lot with my liege lord in another place... A very quick vote for Eomer on the basis of Ang’s “trap”, putting him on 2 votes, tied with Diamond. Not really a lot in this, given that it was only the 2nd vote, but the haste with which she jumped on Ang’s reasoning might be seen as alarming.
I had to go and I decided to trust Ang - the man had a plan and he was the most amusing player to me at least. This may break phantom’s heart but Ang is probably the closest friend among the players remaining at the time and I decided I would go with him and take the consequences …
Day 3
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However it depends how genuinely random the second wolf was ... and we can't be certain that Eomer whetehr Eomer was "chosen" or "random". As a mod, it is tempting to restart the random selection if the balance looks wrong. However with no gifteds and a high calibre group of players it is less likely to be tempted to tinker than if you draw very experienced gifted versus a team of wolves who are novice, notoriously absent, isolated by timezone, or vice versa
An attempt to muddy the waters?
Nope speculation based on experience …..
Day 4
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Blimey .. that is a surprise ......... to kill someone that no one could possible ever discount as a wolf without a seer's confirmation is either brave, foolish or eccentric ..... Mith brave, foolish or eccentric? I’ll say no more on that, save to note that it might suit a Wolfish Mith openly to describe the Wolf in terms that either are not traditionally associated with her or which it might be considered impolite to apply to her. Also, of the three of us left, Mith is the most likely to express surprise at her own choice of kill.
Not sure how to take this? I make no secret of my eccentricity or folly but while I am not brave I hope I do not lack moral courage at least….
And I certainly would not have killed Roa, at least not then. I would have tried to get her lynched. Incidentally morms death would have been the most incriminating had I been a wolf. He always knows instantly my status so I would have wanted him gone ASAP….
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There is that other outside possibility that Morm was a wolf and Fea is messing with our heads by picking off unlikely folk at night..
– I still suspect this to be my Cassandra moment…
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I think it was you who said something about my Bethberry vote being safe looking back ... well hindsight is great isn't it? But anyone who has played a few games of werewolf knows how people can get lynched for very little on day one.
Voting for Bethberry would not have been be a good choice for a wolf because:
a, far too attention seeking and conspicuous.
b, there was a possibility that others might have joined me "in a let's see what happens" approach..... now as has been pointed out, wolfs as lone operators are nearer their goal if anyone else gets lynched. The risk of "wasting" a kill on Bethberry would to my mind rile the wolves more than innocents. A couple of people were anti my punt I must look back and see who they were.
Paranoia does seem to be taking root... heigho... More justification for her Bêthberry vote – she has consistently relied on this defence on the few occasions that suspicions have been raised against her. Also, perhaps suggesting that anyone who might consider her a suspect is being paranoid.
This was in the context of Nogrod changing his mind about my vote proving my innocence. I was putting it back in context. Nogrod is a friend and my polar opposite in thought process … but his intellectual rigour doesn’t always result in the correct conclusions.
Day 5
Argh all this was just tossing balls int eh air … trying to find some pattern, reasoning. Phantom had pointed out the fact all kills were on that side of the Atlantic. I am not a strategist but the kills wer our only clue ..why not look at all options. Not asking for sympathy – more pragmatism. I knew I was innocent and looked it and was so more likely to be a night kill than a lynch victim… I thought it might spike the wolf’s gun and mean the wolf had tochoose someone more suspicious and there fore more revealing to kill. Just pragmatism…. A chance I might be more use dead than alive … such cynicism in the face of the offer of self sacrifice in the common good
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I have to go soon and I think I am going to vote for Diamond.
Kath has pulled the wool over my eyes before and I will kick myself if she is tha wolf but I think she has been a bit too disengaged to be a wolf. If she is a wolf her lack of involvement would be a dampener.
Phantom and PanMan ..I have been suspectiong you alternately and can't decide....
Diamond..... also quiet but manipulative. Could be classic flying under radar wolf.
Have an inkling she would have been keener than most to get Roa out of the way...
Comments ..or are you boys going to lynch me? A possible “testing the water” post? The phantom had already indicated he was leaning towards voting for Diamond, so it would make sense for a Wolfish Mith to test alternative possibilities, while suggesting that she was most likely to vote for her.Justthinking aloud….
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If you're the WW all you have to do is get Di lynched today and leave Kath and I alive for tomorrow, for I will be voting for her.Did Mith deliberately not follow this suggestion because it might point too obviously to her?
No she didn’t follow it because she wasn’t the wolf…
Conclusions
Mithalwen has looked innocent because she is innocent. She made and honest appraisal of her abilities – to use an analogy you will sure you understand - I was saying that I am in the relegation zone of the Premier League ..not that I belonged in the Vauxhall Conference ….. It is flattering to be thought capable of being at this point as a wolf but it isn’t realistic. It just isn’t my style.
As for the Phantom, suspending the “we are all innocent theory” , he has been very “knowing”, confident….. announcing Morm’s innocence, Noggie’s death and so forth…..
I find that level of certainty disturbing in a game where we have been deliberately left in the dark.