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Greetings to all, this is my first post

On this subject, I think it should be remembered that this is the world of Ea. Here once the beings enter, they are not as mighty as they were before. Morgoth gets seven wounds from Fingolfin, despite he is the mightiest being in the world. Ungoliant has dark magic which not even Manwe can see through.

And though she can bind Morgoth himself in her web, she is terrified of the Balrogs. I think its a case of the Dark Lords, Sauron and Melkor being very powerful, but giving that power to their servants (namely the WK, the Balrogs, the dragons).

The Dark lords themselves are not that strong in combat, most obvious in the Silmarillian where both Sauron and Melkor sue for peace when they are defeated. Whereas the Balrogs, dragons and other servants will fight to the death, with no fear, their masters are less brave.

To answer the debate, I think the WK would have ripped Gandalf a new one, because, the WK is super enhanced by sauron, because he carries one of the Nine. He is not a mere man, he is a Sorceror King who has given great power by the Dark Lord, and he is more than a match for a restricted Maiar.