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Old 10-12-2006, 11:19 AM   #330
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alatar is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.alatar is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.
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...but clad in bodies of as of Men, real and not feigned, but subject to the fears and pains and weariness of earth, able to hunger and thirst and be slain;
Okay, but exactly what does that mean? Gandalf fell from a height of who knows while battling a Balrog. He survives the fall, and after a swim, continues the chase. We have no idea what hardships and creatures that he faced while in the depths of the earth. Afterwards, he fights and defeats the Balrog atop the mountain. At this point his spirit leaves him or something (please supply the text if possible ), and then he's sent back.

At what point does he physically die, and what is the cause of death? Exhaustion?


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but coming in shapes weak and humble...
That just means that the Istari didn't get off of the boat looking like Arnold Schwarzenegger in Conan. They were to "advise and persuade" not bully. Also, as old men, they would be less threatening and so be able to access more people. And, maybe as they were old, some may consider them to be wise.


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Originally Posted by Essex
PS, re yeah I know - but everyone else is repeating themselves over these 330 odd posts that I thought I would too
I'm hoping to repeat myself every 30 posts or so, and contradict myself every 60...
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