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Old 09-14-2006, 06:23 PM   #296
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"I heard you Kath!" Nogrod said, coming in as Kath was about to leave.

"You speak well my sister and I and I have had to rethink a few things meself was sure about just a moment ago. Just waitaminute..." Nogrod tried to concentrate and then finally spoke. He almost seemed sober this morning.

Boro clearly seems to offer us a Seer-list of innocents in #272, just look how the speech is made: the innocents bolded on their separate lines and the rest in-text etc. But why should he mix unknowns with the knowns and thence baffle us? So I tend to believe they are true innocents, at least for now.

That is based on the following:

One of the wolf kills were made by reason and not by a dream, but that I think very likely, and would say that Menel was the one caught without a dream. If you look at it closely, Boro's first suspicion of Menel was the third real post of the game #121 (not counting Wilva's post). So before Boro's first quite non-substantial accusation there were only a post by Menel (purely random accusation to open the game) and one by Gil ("let's eat some pancakes"). Then Boro's second post #133 consisted of a counter-rant against Menel's answer to Boro #123. Typical first posts. Then it was I and I who took to making a more serious argument over Menel in #139. And those basically were the arguments by which Menel was brought to the grave. So very possibly a death without a dream.

Your interpretation of the narration seems to me flawed. I thought
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Boromir sat up in bed, startled from a dream he was having. "That's two Days in a row!" he cried exasperatedly.
meaning that he had been tried to be killed already the last Night, which would sound very probable indeed. Anyway, I think it's quite standard stuff that there are no major hints in the narrations.

So Boro has had three dreams of innocents? I come back to my earlier question: why would he have made the post #272 in the way he made it and still include actually known and just hunched innocents in it? That would be just weird.

And at least to my eyes the choices look quite reasonable indeed. Myself, Maca, Valesse(after Volo had suspected her earlier as Boro said himself) and Volo. If you look at the game dynamics that makes sense.

Were it that way, we should be optimistic right now. It might be a game of 1/4. And the Ranger would prove to be a real help... Just think about it. And I mean it. If you others find flaws in this, let's forget my ideas, but at least now I'm quite convinced."

With that Nogrod fell to the chair, just too sober to stay awake one minute.
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