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narfforc · 07-27-2006, 08:44 AM

History is fluid, at any one time new evidence is unearthed for investigation, we in the real world can feel it, touch it and see it, the problem with Middle-earth is that it's published form is static, you can not change it. In real history we normally have one account of a period in time, there is sometimes an opposing view ie: America has Independence from Britain, however many British Military types will tell you, that if the full force of The British Army had been brought to bear immediately then things would have been very different, these are called 'What If's' and they change nothing. Conquered peoples and lands will tell a different story to the one published in histories, propaganda can twist reality, yet we do not have the ability of the author to rewrite and supercede a previous storyline, in time truth has the victory. The problem MathewM is that The Lord of the Rings is just a book, it is dangerous to become enamoured of Faery, one day you will wake and realise that you dreamed your life away on the unsubstanstial. In the real world we have real problems, food on the table and rent to pay, we need not worry of orcs hanging on the bell, and my life is tempered by reality, I do not need any book to tell me how I should act, think or do. I have a cellar (basement) at my home, in it I have:

51 copies of LotRs
307 other Tolkien or related books
14 swords
5 helmets
2 shields
2 axes
2 staffs
25 rings
the finger of Sauron
various statues
70-ish painted models
and more assorted Tolkien clutter than you can imagine

I have to my Tolkien collection, two ex-wives who I denounce as unbelievers. I have been reading Tolkien for nearly 40 years, it is a huge part of my life, I have spent the last three years writing a parody (spoof) to be called The Lord of the Grins, if you met anyone that knows me, they would say 'Oh yeh, that Tolkien geek', yet they would be wrong, for I have many others interests that I love, one is life, real life. However I commend you on a very interesting topic, thank you for bringing it up.

07-27-2006, 08:44 AM	#2
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	History is fluid, at any one time new evidence is unearthed for investigation, we in the real world can feel it, touch it and see it, the problem with Middle-earth is that it's published form is static, you can not change it. In real history we normally have one account of a period in time, there is sometimes an opposing view ie: America has Independence from Britain, however many British Military types will tell you, that if the full force of The British Army had been brought to bear immediately then things would have been very different, these are called 'What If's' and they change nothing. Conquered peoples and lands will tell a different story to the one published in histories, propaganda can twist reality, yet we do not have the ability of the author to rewrite and supercede a previous storyline, in time truth has the victory. The problem MathewM is that The Lord of the Rings is just a book, it is dangerous to become enamoured of Faery, one day you will wake and realise that you dreamed your life away on the unsubstanstial. In the real world we have real problems, food on the table and rent to pay, we need not worry of orcs hanging on the bell, and my life is tempered by reality, I do not need any book to tell me how I should act, think or do. I have a cellar (basement) at my home, in it I have: 51 copies of LotRs 307 other Tolkien or related books 14 swords 5 helmets 2 shields 2 axes 2 staffs 25 rings the finger of Sauron various statues 70-ish painted models and more assorted Tolkien clutter than you can imagine I have to my Tolkien collection, two ex-wives who I denounce as unbelievers. I have been reading Tolkien for nearly 40 years, it is a huge part of my life, I have spent the last three years writing a parody (spoof) to be called The Lord of the Grins, if you met anyone that knows me, they would say 'Oh yeh, that Tolkien geek', yet they would be wrong, for I have many others interests that I love, one is life, real life. However I commend you on a very interesting topic, thank you for bringing it up. __________________ [B]THE LORD OF THE GRINS:THE ONE PARODY....A PARODY BETTER THAN THE RINGS OF POWER.