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Old 07-03-2006, 11:11 AM   #103
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Roa, I'm beginning to suspect that I have found the third wolf now...
Yes, I'm not at all sure about Eomer or Kitanna - they have been the only ones I have had something to note or suspect on.

But sincerely , look at this post Roa made! It's just a mild attack that in the same time works as her own cover-up. Oh my. And what the "attack" is made of? intentional misunderstandings and pure rhetorics (partly false them too).

Let's make an analysis on a couple of nice ones.

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Sure, strong agressive attacks were once his hallmark, but he made a point about toning that down.
She calls my speculation on Eomer a "strong agressive attack"? C'mon Roa! You know very well yourself, what I can do... and what is a strong aggressive attack in the first place - I've seen you build them too. Then as you have yourself labelled my thoughts of Eomer as a strong attack, you accuse me of being inconsistent or suspicious because I have said I'm toning down. Nice Roa. Very nice. Oh how suspicious!
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Now he attacks Eomer for not making a vote that he himself wouldn't make. If Nogrod was around at the end like he claims, why didn't he make a vote to save Form after Glirdan's vote?
First of all, an intentional misunderstanding. I didn't say Eomer should have "rescued" either Form or Glirdy. That was the whole point! We would have needed more people on the place to make a difference. I couldn't save them both and he couldn't have saved them both. So also asking why I didn't save Form is just continuing on the wrong tracks. So wishing to make me look like a culprit to the tragedy of yesterday (being herself one of those who voted for Form/Glirdy). Nice move Roa.
But even nicer to come: Roa says
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If Nogrod was around at the end like he claims
. Well You know, there are people who speak or tell things (truthfully) and then there are people who just "claim" something. So I'm also the one who just claims being somewhere or done something. Very untrusty guy this Nogrod fellow, isn't he? Unfortunately you can check the last ten minutes of the last night. I was there. I don't only claim to have been there. The real problem is, that there were no others...
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Scolding others for doing nothing when he himself did nothing? It seems like he's trying to hide his own guilt by loudly pointing it out in others.
And again, nice rhetorical twists turning from a misguided interpretation of what I have said to totally unwarranted inference about my guilt. But that looks nice (you should write speeches to politicians running for office - to paint the competitors black). No one could have made the difference there alone! Go check the situation yourself for God's sake and stop being intentionally misleading. It's annoying (or then evil - you Roa know which one of these it is in your case). Some people here had voted stupidly and then refused to come back to help us out from the situation. To wolves that's just great, but for us others not.
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He may have let up now, but that doesn't change what he did. If anything, it bears the mark of flip-flopping
And Bingo! She got the word "flip-flopping" included in the post! Yes, that Nogrod is also a flip-flopper! First of all, the accusation is wrong as I have tried to explain here. But secondly - and I think even more importantly, it's there to rouse suspicion (because everyone is so confident that anything someone names flip-floppy is bad). So ungrounded rhetorics once again.

Roa I have been pondering so far whether I could try to trust you on this game - it would be just so totally improbable that you were a baddie again. But as you are here trying to make a mountain out of a molehill just using only rhetorical means and intentionally misguided interpretations, and as I happen to know that their target is innocent, I'm getting somewhat alarmed. If you would be an ordo just missing the mark, you would have had been sharper, more intelligent, seeing actual connections or slips or whatever. Here you had none.

Okay. Too much talk that misses the mark. I'll try to do something more constructive for a while.

EDIT: X-posted with a lot!
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