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narfforc · 05-31-2006, 05:04 PM

To add a little to what Boromir88 has already said. The Teleri delayed long on The Great Journey, and Cirdan was the leader of those seeking Elwe, it is also said that the Teleri had already developed a type of sailing vessel before they got to the coast, and the evolution of this craft was taught by Osse. This is due to the Teleri's long delay on the shores of The Sea of Rhun.

What I believe is that Cirdan did start on the Great Journey, he may or may not have been one of the first who awoke at Cuivienen, we may never know, but he was a leader and he was chosen by Ulmo to stay in Middle-earth for a very special reason.

P.S Do not feel stupid asking questions, no-one on this site knows all things, the important is to know where to look. I suggest you start on the Newcomers and Novices page, other than that invest in Robert Fosters Guide to Middle-Earth, you can pick one up on Ebay for a few pounds.

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narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	To add a little to what Boromir88 has already said. The Teleri delayed long on The Great Journey, and Cirdan was the leader of those seeking Elwe, it is also said that the Teleri had already developed a type of sailing vessel before they got to the coast, and the evolution of this craft was taught by Osse. This is due to the Teleri's long delay on the shores of The Sea of Rhun. What I believe is that Cirdan did start on the Great Journey, he may or may not have been one of the first who awoke at Cuivienen, we may never know, but he was a leader and he was chosen by Ulmo to stay in Middle-earth for a very special reason. P.S Do not feel stupid asking questions, no-one on this site knows all things, the important is to know where to look. I suggest you start on the Newcomers and Novices page, other than that invest in Robert Fosters Guide to Middle-Earth, you can pick one up on Ebay for a few pounds. __________________ [B]THE LORD OF THE GRINS:THE ONE PARODY....A PARODY BETTER THAN THE RINGS OF POWER. Last edited by narfforc; 05-31-2006 at 05:09 PM.