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Old 05-09-2006, 09:18 AM   #24
Rhod the Red
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Originally Posted by Anguirel
Two points:

Rhod, you criticise Tolkien for defending "elitism" and "feudalism".

First, it should be remembered that these are very different things. "Elitism" means the preeminence of a meritocratic oligarchy; people chosen to oversee the fields they're best at. It's actually a pretty sensible and crucial principle, despite being bad-mouthed by socialists who haven't succeeded in achieving anything better. But I digress.

And of course, we all know about feudalism, cap-doffing, God bless you your honour, vassalage type of stuff. In my view, things can get a lot worse than feudalism run under just rulers. And you have to remember that it was essentially a choice for Middle-earth between just feudalism under Aragorn and arbitrary despotism under Sauron. There wasn't, thank goodness, a "democratic" alternative, though I'm sure Sauron was on the point of devising one...

My second point-you're forgetting, in terms of commoner heroes, the soldier Beregond. Remember that moment when Pippin assumes he's a captain and Beregond laughs?

Elitism: The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.(dictionary.com)

I didn't say he defended elitism, but pointed out the story features it.

Those two choices left out the anarchist societes of The Shire and Bree! So you're not being truthfull.
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