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Old 04-19-2006, 03:27 PM   #29
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Celuien, I’m again quite baffled about the things you do. You are such careful at times, and then so careless on another times... So it seems, that the time calls for The return of the Devil’s Advocate...


First of all, in #45 You list all the players, according to your suspicions, well almost all the players. Your list has no Jenny (now known and done for orc) in it, even though the numbers are right: Caran in unsuspicious two times...

Then on #67 you say:
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I wonder. Should I regret my vote for Diamond?
At the same time, it's an awfully brazen thing for an orc to say.
On the second day you note it would be a bad move to try being a shaman impersonator, then you start talking about your ordoness (#156) and wonder, whether you are still alive the next day (#168) – nice to compare this to #67.

On the third day you firstly downplay Jenny’s posts – and say, the truths, if there are any, will be quite subtle. Then again it has f.ex. turned out, that from Jenny’s “dangerous”-list: Spawn, Roa, Diamond & me, I & we know three to be innocent already – and you weren’t even mentioned in the post(s) (no Celuien!)! If Jenny were listing the innocents, who would be dangerous from an orc point of view, it would have included you too, were you innocent...

From the third day onwards, you have also been defending Naria quite openly. Comparing things again. In #156 you make the second full list of your suspicions (DAY2), having Naria under the title “Really, really don't know”. In the morning (DAY3), you go making a case against Sleepy (not generally known innocent then, but to an orc of course) in #250, saying:
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So Sleepy moves to the top of my suspicion list based on day 1. I haven't thought too much about what he's done since then, other than to guess that if he's an orc, Naria is innocent since he went along with Jenny's accusation.
This morning (DAY4) you go on to defend Naria again on #351:
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At the end of yesterday's voting/auto-eviction, only Naria remained alive. If Diamond's suspect list was a factor in her selection, that either means Naria is an Orc who killed Diamond to protect herself, or that Naria is innocent and Diamond was killed to start a lynch Naria bandwagon.
Naria doesn't seem to be a bold sort. So I don't think she would have gone for a suspicion causing bluff (look at me! I can't be an Orc if Diamond was killed - it brings to much suspicion on me) as an Orc by killing Diamond. For that reason, I think Diamond's death points to Naria's innocence.
Now earlier you said, that if Sleepy is an orc, Naria is an innocent. As Sleepy turned out innocent, the case might have been left open again? But you will go againg defending Naria (probably a known innocent to an orc). You know, as well as we do, that WW is not so simple, that you can so openly trust someone - even though you had some reasonable grounds for it (and I don't claim you playing simple: far from it, if you are an orc). But it seems a bit odd, that you go on claiming someone's innocence in a dreamer/seer-like fashion.

And what's even more interesting: if people would have started to believe, that you would have had the dream on the night before your first defence of Naria, that would have pointed against my dream - making it look false! That could be exploited maybe tomorrow? Quite nicely weaved, I would say. But happily, Naria (some irony here...?) had the dream of me, and can now somewhat prove my word here.

Lastly this toying with the shaman-stuff. First I was afraid, that you were the shaman – and would be quickly spotted by the orcs. Then I kind of started to believe, that you were making a casual shaman impersonation – and being quite a brave ordo in doing it as offering yourself to the orcs. But just now I have started to think, that whether this vague posture of yours is a disguise towards us villagers, and not towards the orcs?

Well. That's the Devil speaking (against possible orcs? ). I'm not myself so sure, what to make of this. But I would like to hear your assessments...
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