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Originally Posted by Azaelia of Willowbottom
Caranlondien: Suggests that dreamers come straight out, which is flawed because it would be very easy for an Orc to have a dream about an innocent and then point them out as an orc.
Kitanna: First post is strong and to the point. She makes some good points, and for now, I am not worried about her.
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I wouldn't like to bring this to the fore again, but well. I just feel I have to (remember Jenny's point on me: fighting against a good idea...)
Anyone bored with the topic should run over this message. It is not intended as a general discussion topic at this hour.
So please see this point you make on Caranlodien (probably isn't her point, but mine, but anyhow, that's not the point, the argument is).
Yes, it would be easy for an orc to have a dream about an innocent and then to point her/him as an orc. But what then? We lynch an innocent and discover the innocence. Do you think, we will have any trouble finding the one to lynch the next day, as this deceiving has been revealed by the death of an innocent? The exchange ratio of 1:1 (villager vs. wolf) is more than good!
And to Kitanna's points. F.ex. Should the shaman reveal a dream s/he has gotten to her/himself? Of course not! That would be the stupidest thing to do! Or the second point about a villager having a dream about an orc, revealing it, and then be spared by the wolfs - and lynched the day after! Hello! If someone reveals an orc dream, then that orc will be lynched and we are one point nearer to the goal! Why should we run lynching someone, who has given us an orc?
The only problem here I see is an orc betraying a fellow orc, and thus achieving credibility by helping in the lynch of an orc. But I don't see, why we should be running to declare all the dreamers innocent? The dreamed-of's are innocent (or wolves, but known one's), not the dreamers.
But as I said much earlier, there are other problems in this plan (#34), and I don't support it any more!
Let's get back to today's bussiness... Just had to defend an idea from wrong accusations.