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Originally Posted by Bêthberry
I assume you are referring to Ilúvatar's words in Ainulindale but I could be wrong. Perhaps you can elaborate, alatar?
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Not sure what you're asking, and not exactly sure what I meant when I posted that (my brain gets erased each night for safety), but what I think that I was saying is that this post seems to be asking the question whether the hype over the One Ring and Sauron reclaiming the same was as dire as it would seem from the words of Gandalf and the other Wise Ones. Was the "your valor would be in vain" and "none can see his fall" or whatever was said both true in that Sauron ReRinged would overrun Gondor, but also untrue in that surely Eru's plan wasn't for an ever dark Middle Earth. Again, if you're a Gondorian pikeman at the Rammas Echor being attacked by Olog-hai, Eru's plan and eucatastrophe is not going to affect your next few minutes of existance, but on the whole, I think that Eru would have some saving throw in hand.
So we're not asking 'what if Sauron overran ME and reigned supreme forever' (and even decided to invade Aman) but that even though Sauron may regain the Ring and so possess ME, and though even Gandalf can not see his fall, Eru's plan does not have ME in eternal thralldom. There's always hope, not for any specific individuals or institutions (well, except maybe Tinúviel-spawn), but in knowing that Eru has it all worked out for his greater glory.
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(It's an interesting touch, isn't it, how the archaic verb form is used to lend authority to his words.)
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Didn't know that
It posted here. Anyway, will start using that verb form in more office communications
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