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Originally Posted by JennyHallu
This isn't ME survivor, it's SA survivor, and I support Celebrian because of my respect for her, not pity.
Oh...and Glorfindel came back, so no elf who goes to Valinor can be hastily classified as "dead".
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Yeah, this is SA survivor, and, as mentioned, we can use any event from any age to decide the outcome.
You also overlook the fact that Glorfindel actually died. He was sent to the Halls of Mandos and was then sent back to Middle-Earth. The Halls of Mandos really doesn't sound too pleasant. No elf has ever sailed to Valinor and come back.
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"And forth went Morgoth, and he was halted by the elves. Then went Sauron, who was stopped by a dog and then aged men. Finally, there came the Witch-King, who destroyed Arnor, but nobody seems to remember that."
-A History of Villains
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