[Farael]

Post#112
Says he’s concerned of those who voted against Boromir. He argues for Anguirel’s innocence (given that it was Day 1 and he was spreading his votes… I believe that it has also something to do with Anguirel being dangerously smart as an enemy) and so suspects mostly Formendacil, Garin and LMP. Then he drops LMP off the list (does anyone else find a pattern here?) and goes after Formendacil and Garin…. Which are fairly safe accusations to make. Formen has been under a bit of suspicion and Garin seems to be most skilful at getting himself killed or at least under suspicion than Nilp.

Originally Posted by Aiwendil on post 112 as well

The other person I'll be watching carefully today is Tar-Ancalime. YesterDAY, she was my top suspect. While I admit that the DAY 1 evidence was slim, I still can't help but feel that she has been "testing" various approaches (moratorium on Seer talk, suspicion of Spawn) and then very quickly backing off when they come under fire. Her vote for Eomer looks like a typical, random DAY 1 vote - but it also looks like a fairly safe vote for a Wolf.

Yet another safe suspicion by Aiwendil. And if I’m not confused, Aiwendil himself has been a little flippy-floppy as well. That by itself is not a bad thing on Day 1, but again, it all adds up, little by little.

Now on to post#139

Originally Posted by Aiwendil

It occurs to me that I didn't offer an answer to my own question 1 from yesterday

I can’t recall who started the argument of Boromir trying to look helpful while doing very little but…. Look!! Right there!! If that’s not trying to be helpful while being quite innocuous then I’m the True Seer

And here we have a little contradiction

Originally Posted by guess who?

It seems to me that voting is the one place where the wolves can't hide. A wolf, it seems to me, will be willing to say anything. But what a wolf fears is the hangman's noose - whether it be 'round his/her own neck or a compatriot's. To put it another way: wolves and villagers will probably sound more or less alike, but they won't vote alike

Somewhat true, very safe thing to say and yet…. Also somewhat wrong. It would be a BIG mistake to disregard the accusations and reasoning because you can also find werewolves in there. Werewolves cannot bandwagon with other people’s ideas for ever because sooner or later they will get lynched for bandwagonning (a cardinal sin of werewolf) and therefore they ought to bring up new ideas, new accusations… and of course, they are limited on who they can point their fingers at. By the way, I ask of you fellow villagers… what have I been saying about today’s featured acusee (Aiwendil I mean) for a while now? He has been all to willing to forgive some and accuse others.

Aiwendil himself realizes his last comment was not the best because he follows it with

Originally Posted by Aiwendil!!

Having said that, it would be foolish to look at the votes and ignore the discussion. No doubt there are signs of wolvishness to be found in the discussion. But it seems to me that those signs will be harder to read there than in the voting record

Flip Flop!!!! Right there!! Wasn’t Aiwendil himself the one to argue that flip-flops were suspicious? He’s saying A LOT of things and yet adding VERY LITTLE. Look at it, he says that the voting record is the chief tool for finding the wolves, as wolves would be willing to say anything to defend themselves, then he says that it would be foolish to ignore the discussion, then he says that the voting record is still the best way to go.

First of all, I would assume that most of the experienced gamers know all of this. And I don’t think we have any rookies in this village, do we? Second, it was a flip-flop… definitely a flip-flop

Third, YesterDay Aiwendil made a comment of the Seer being most useful dead (happy now?) now he makes a comment about the votes being the most useful way of finding wolves…. Does anyone else get the feeling that he is trying to restrict the range of information we work with? Ever so subtly and without totally compromising in favour of his own ideas, he hints that maybe we should stop paying so much attention at what was said and pay more attention at what was voted.

Well Aiwendil, are you afraid that someone will dig-up something you said that you rather left forgotten? And furthermore, it’s Day 2… while we have SOME voting evidence, we are still pretty ‘naked’ with regards to voting patterns and such.

On the same post (136) he expresses concerns for chiefly for Formendacil, somewhat for Garin and then LMP…. But the accusation against LMP is the most ‘watered’ one. Pretty weak as accusations go.

A little more down his post, Aiwendil defends his role in yesterDay’s seer-talk. Nothing wrong with that, besides the fact that he seems all too willing to drop the subject.

Originally Posted by Aiwendil

In the event, it turned out to be wasted, but only because we were so unlucky as to have our True Seer die on the first NIGHT

(bolding by me)
It’s not all said and done, the Seer talk might still bring up some information!! I wouldn’t disregard ANYTHING said as possible evidence… as you can probably see.

On to post 154

Originally Posted by Aiwendil

So LMP has responded to the accusations coming his way. He sounds genuine to me. But, then, I don't doubt that he'd make a clever wolf, or that he'd be able to modulate the tone of his posts to suit his needs.

The fact that Aiwendil rises LMP’s name so often and yet accuses him so little is making alarms sound all over the place. This last quote, for example, says that LMP sounds innocent to him, but then LMP is clever enough to sound innocent when he is not. Really good move if you are a wolf. If LMP gets lynched, he can say that he still had some suspicions… if LMP is forgiven by most of the village, he can say that he did not really suspect him after all. This is followed by

Originally Posted by Aiwendil

And I keep coming back to what I mentioned earlier - that the one place where a wolf can't hide is in his vote - though he can, of course, try to explain it away the next DAY

Well, again, saying lots of words and very little information… the wolf can’t hide in his vote, but the wolf can try to explain it. See? Both sides of the coin, he might just be a very, VERY cautious villager…. But then, so much caution points towards him being a wolf trying to sound reasonable and at the same time, not give anything for others to really rally around.

LMP claims that he suspected Boromir before Ang posted his suspicion; he then expresses exasperation when this claim is doubted. Now, LMP, it seems to me that no one is denying that you could very well have come to suspect Boromir before Ang's post. For my part, your story (i.e. simply not enough time to post earlier) is a perfectly believable one. But that doesn't mean that it's true. The fact remains that we had no evidence that you suspected Boromir until very late in the DAY. Surely you acknowledge that, from out perspective, your claim to have suspected him earlier could be a wolf's frantic attempt at backpedaling and getting out of a tight squeeze.

Having said that, I don't think I'll be voting for LMP today. My reasoning is that, so far, the only real piece of evidence I can find against him is his sudden anti-Boromir stance. Everywhere else, he has (to me at least) appeared to be a genuinely helpful innocent. If he's a wolf, he's doing a remarkable job of playing that role. As of toDAY, I think there are others suspects that it would be better to look at.

The first paragraph had me thinking for a moment that I was aiming my sights at the wrong person…. Look!! He is actually suspecting LMP and in a very careful way, he’s saying that LMP could easily be ‘back-pedaling and getting out of a tight squeeze’

Then the second paragraph comes and AGAIN, Aiwendil lets LMP off the hook. His last sentence seems pretty innocent but given my thoughts that he might be trying to subtly manipulate the village’s eyes to focus towards a certain point (away from the seer ‘till he’s dead, away from the discussions and into the voting… and now away from LMP and against easier targets?) I find it fishy as well.

By the way, having finished my reading and accusing based on Aiwendil’s posts, I find something that spawn brings up very interesting(no my friend, you are not in the clear just yet, I’m finding you useful for the time being and that’s it) If I’m not mistaken Aiwendil suggests that I might just be the False Seer (which I’m afraid I am not). Wouldn’t it be great for a wolf if I were? All my previous accusations are moot (hey, he was the false seer acting on false information!!) and he’s on the clear for a couple of days (come on, it was the False Seer thinking I’m a wolf, don’t pay attention to accusations based on that)

Ok, still catching up…. Eomer, you are right… I am playing the safest game for a wolf because no wolf would be THAT bold… I’ll keep it in mind if I ever AM a wolf, but this time I’m afraid I’m not.

Finally, I just had a moment of clear thought and another reason against Aiwendil sprouted up. I’m alive. Think about it, what reasons were there to kill Holby? Slim to none, if you ask me. She didn’t sound too seer-like, and she didn’t make any strong accusations against other villagers. I have….if the wolves had killed me, they could have easily started a bandwagon against Aiwendil without getting their hands too dirty (after all, the one who starts a bandwagon is rarely suspected, but those who follow them are…)

My friends, I said I would not vote for my acusee just because it didn’t seem likely that I’d get him lynched just today but if you got this far into my post I ask of you…. Re-consider your stance, it’s not too late to get rid of this wolf

++Aiwendil