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Old 02-23-2006, 10:50 AM   #16
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As promised... (Note: I'm cross-posting with everyone after post #165)

Anguirel: Although Holby suspected Lhuna and tar-a, doubts that she dreamed of either. Possibly dreamed of morm, but that doesn't seem very likely to him. Thinks the wolves spotted Holby to be the Seer, asks if/ suggests that the False Seer should reveal themselves providing a known innocent. Thanks Nilp for suspecting him, because it may make him stay alive longer. Reminds that Boromir isn't a proven innocent and agrees with Eomer that Day 1's discussion didn't have to differ so much of any other Day's discussion and (therefore) he found Boro's posts flimsy. Later agrees with Aiwendil that the Seer is useless except as a proven innocent and they shouldn't reveal themselves yet.

- If the wolves really spotted Holby because of the quote... Well, I'm speechless. My thoughts on the Seer matter are in post #165. -

Celuien: Didn't suspect that Holby was the Seer, thinks it was just a lucky chance for the wolves that they picked Holby. Thinks Holby didn't dream of morm and it would be better for the False Seer to stay hidden for now. Says Lhuna's behaviour was a bit strange and is puzzled by lmp's, explains why she was involved in speaking of the Seer yesterDay. Votes for Garin because of "too much sympathy for the furry type" and his 'don't lynch me' post. Isn't comfortable with voting for lmp because of his defence which, however, might be a bluff. Doesn't find Lhuna wolvish now and thinks tar-a's "flip-flop" explanation is good. Is almost certain that Aiwendil, Farael & Sauce are innocent and clears Boro for now.

morm: Agrees with Ang that Holby didn't dream of tar-a, but is suspicious of her anyway and makes a case against lmp (#110). Doesn't understand the Boromir bandwagon, but tries to look closer at him toDay. However, finds lmp more suspicious than Boromir. Thinks that if lmp's a wolf, tar-a probably isn't. Later doesn't suspect lmp so much anymore, suspects tar-a and isn't convinced by the accusations made against Garin. Doesn't regret voting for Gil because eliminating him isn't that big a loss, admits that he had forgot the double lynching rule, too. Says the False Seer is useless now, but it could be helpful is s/he came forward thus protecting the true Gifteds.

- Well, it's most important that the Ranger stays alive. The wolves attacking the Hunter might be a good think for us if s/he chooses the target well. I agree with most of the villagers that it's too early for the False one to reveal themselves that it would really benefit us. -

Glirdan: Says his part in Gil's death was completely randomness and hopes it isn't held against him.

- Really, now? You just happened to pick Gil who fell in your 'silent people' category. Besides, in your post #14 you said it was mostly random. I'm not holding anything against you (yet), but it would be nice if you stood behind your actions. -

Says his suggestion to lynch the quiet ones was a mere ploy to make people talk which kind of failed, wants to look at Lhuna and agrees with lmp saying that if the wolves are smart, they don't use the quiet/moderate/talkative combination.

- Actually, the problem with that kind of thinking is that the way the wolves act depends on who they are. If the wolves are talkative by nature, it looks weird if two of them start holding back. If the wolves are smart, they act like they would act when they're innocent. -

Answers Aiwendil's questions echoing the answers that people said yesterDay. Later repeats that he's suspicious of Lhuna and is glad that Ang liked his singing. Doesn't understand why Boro voted for Gil and says that "everyone knows fully well that if it comes down to a tie, the person to reach that number of votes first would be lynched. Your [Boro] vote sealed Gil's fate."

- Well, if you read the posts before yours, you might have noticed that there really was confusion about the double lynch rule. Also, as you said, Gil would have been lynched anyway, so Boro's vote did not seal Gil's fate. -

Votes for Lhuna.

Aiwendil: Had no idea that Holby was Gifted, agrees with Ang that the False Seer should probably come forth. Says Day 1's voting record needs to be looked at, somewhat understands the votes for Gil, but thinks that there would have been more suspicious villagers to vote for. Doesn't understand the Boromir bandwagon although again agrees with Ang that Boro's posts looked more helpful than they were, but that's not enough evidence. Doesn't find Ang's vote suspicious, but is more worried of Form, Garin and lmp's votes that forced Boro to vote for Gil and seal his fate. Although he finds lmp's talk against Boromir odd, is ready to give him the benefit of doubt because of his Day 1's helpfulness. Is most suspicious of Form, Garin and tar-a, who seemed to be testing different approaches, pluse her vote could be suspicious. Isn't suspicious of Glirdan anymore. Says his three questions were supposed to encourage serious discussion.

- Well, I found the question no.2 rather odd. Of course we want to keep the Gifteds alive as long as possible, so as for their strategy: do not step forward and say: "Hey, I'm the Ranger", or "Wolves, if you want to kill the Seer, pick me." Why was it all of the sudden relevant to start talking about how the Gifted's should act? That's up to the Gifteds to decide, and that question doesn't speak for Aiwendil's favour. -

Thinks the Boromir lynching campaign looks suspicious, thainks the voting record is most helpful now. Finds Form, Garin and lmp wolvish based on their votes, sayd lmp or Farael might be the False Seer. Explains that the information the False Seer gets in actually no information at all. Doesn't apologise his part in the Seer talk because thinks it didn't do any harm and it's better than random accusations.

- I agree that serious conversations are most helpful, but the Seer talk didn't make us much wiser. However, random accusations cause reactions that may prove helpful later. I hope we might get something out of the Seer conversation later, too. -

Thinks Holby's death was just a lucky pick for the wolves.
Later thinks that lmp sounds genuine, but might still be a wolf. Doesn't know what to think of tar-a, but she seemed wolvish on Day 1, suspects Form and Garin the most.

Boromir: Thinks Holby's death might have been intended to set up tar-a or Lhuna. Gives his thoughts of every villager, finds lmp, Lhuna, Garin and Celuien most suspicious. Says Form's vote makes sense, but lmp's is odd. Thinks the Seer talk was orchestrated by wolves trying to distract us from concentration on them. Because of that, suspects lmp, Ang, tar-a, spawn and Celuien.

- As I said in my posts #41 and #93, I agree that the Seer talk was mostly unnecessary. What you say makes sense, but I'd add Aiwendil and perhaps Farael on the list, though. -

Finds tar-a's apology odd. Explain his vote to Glirdan, says lmp's caught in a trap and he won't give enough reasons for suspecting Boro. Thinks Ang's innocent because he sticks to his opinion of Boro, says that buttering up is suspicious and perhaps one wolf (Celuien or Lhuna) has tried to defend him.

- That sounds plausible. I think there was a reason to vote for you, Boro, but it was hardly better than any other reason on that Day. Therefore I think it's odd to take so absolute sides on this matter. -

Agrees with Nilp's "'Lynch him!'-'No, lynch him!'" scenario and understands why lmp and Ang are suspicious of him. Mains suspects are Lhuna, lmp, Aiwendil and Celuien, is still unsure of morm. Wants to hear more from Eomer and spawn (and Kath & Farael).




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