[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Aiwendil

But wouldn't wolf vs. innocent on the last day be a wolf victory?

Yes, sorry. I meant a different way of narrating the Wolf win - ie with only one Wolf surviving, rather than two. But I thought in that game that, the way that they had played, both Wolves deserved to survive.

Originally Posted by Aiwendil

Not necessarily - when I was the Hunter in Alcarillo's game, I had to hunt every Day and every Night.

That's quite harsh. When I was the Hunter (WWXII, I believe), my decision not to Hunt the Werebear on the final Night played some part in our victory as, had I hunted and got it wrong, it could have spelled disaster. In "game logic" terms, it makes sense to allow the Hunter to take a conscious decision (acting on the basis of his rational assessment) not to hunt, while there are grounds for ruling that the Wolves (acting, arguably, more on cunning and instinct than on logic in their transformed state) should be compelled to kill at night.

I defer to your far greater abilities of mathmatical assessment, Aiwendil.

Originally Posted by the guy who be carnivorous

It is really just a fun way of saying "draw." I'd rather play in a game where the Mod ultimately wins than in a draw.

But, if it is just a fun way of saying draw, then it is a draw. Which is a boring outcome imho.

Originally Posted by the guy who sprout fur

In any case, if the whole village dies, it's not even a draw. It's a multi-loss.

Precisely. Draw = everyone loses.