[The Saucepan Man]

Well, it's really buzzing around here, isn't it?

I have reviewed the thread once more, and I am afraid that it has got me little further. Any one of the four unknowns could be a Wolf. But here is where I am.

I, personally, am discounting Gil-Galad. He has acted how I would expect him to act. And I put his recent behaviour down to not paying attention, rather than a bluff. TGWBS frequently mentioned him as being a possible Wolf, often in the same breath as he mentioned Naria (the quiet ones together). I don't think that he would have commented about both of his compadres in this way so frequently. Finally, I just don't think that two Wolves out of three would have voted so infrequently. If Gil is a Wolf, hats off to him (and his fellows).

I could go either way with Kath. I have found little more to go on than I set out earlier. However, I still think that she should be one of our lynch candidates today. She is currently contributing nothing. She already has two votes. And there are reasonable grounds on which to consider her guilty.

Originally Posted by Garin

I also fail to see how Spawn seems innocent.

My suspicions of dancing spawn are based almost entirely on the little that TGWBS said about her and the fact that she has avoided suspicion throughout much of our ordeal. But there is another good explanation for that. I have been through everything that she has said and done and found nothing in it (other than her voting record, which is similar to that of Garin and also my own) that seems Wolfish. On the contrary, everything that she has said, I would expect an ordinary, innocent villager to say. I wonder if, in suspecting her, I am simply guilty of over-analysis?

Originally Posted by Garin

I understand you are pressed for time Sauce but I wish you had expounded.

I will now. First off, my inclination to think Garin innocent is based almost entirely on the fact that he looks so suspicious. I mentioned earlier his association with almost all of the dead innocents. Admittedly, if he is a Wolf, he has been playing boldly, killing at night those he stated as his suspects (or voted for) or those who suspected him. But look how this has turned out for him? He is now regarded as most probably innocent by many because of it.

Then there are some of the things that he has said:

Originally Posted by Garin on Day 2

I agree with others that those who made isolated votes should be watched closely. Votes late and unexplained are even more suspicious than votes for the innocent.

That would include Naria. Obligatory suspicion cast in the direction of a fellow Wolf? And not only her either - it's a generalisation about the quiet ones. Yet, he never voted for her, or even really came close to doing so. On the day that she was lynched, he voted instead for Marcolie.

And what about his treatment of Cailin?

Originally Posted by Garin on Day 3 (in separate posts)

I'm not going to waste the whole day defending myself to Cailin, who seems to have a awful mean streak that seems quite predatory …

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I'll admit it, if I was a wolf I would have taken out Cailin and not the vague giggling-kitten. She has it out for me and I am not sure why, It just seemed Valier was just following her lead to a certain death. I looked at the photo of Cailin on the photo page to try to get a feel for her aggression and don't see the pretty young woman acting so aggressively if not for a lupine identity. I'm confused and as angry as SpM right now for the way the village is acting. I will continue to disregard her suspicions and propose we weed out the non-participants.

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I keep wanting to call Cailin, Anguirel by accident and couldn't understand why. Now I know why, because she seems so ANGry. I expect her to behave with the same bluster when she returns and won't vote for her until she does so.

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I apologize if seem to get too personal, I am just reacting to someone who wished me dead. This is why I tried to keep my mouth shut this game, I forget how young and sensitive some of the Downs members are. Anyways, best of luck to you. I plan to keep to my pledge not to post a retribution vote and hope there is not a double lynch in the making.

I didn't think much of this at the time, as I suspected Cailin myself. But others found it strange and, looking back, it certainly is. Throughout Day 3, Garin kept going on about how mean and angry Cailin was. As far as I can see, she did very little to deserve such an accusation, other than to suspect him. He also said that he would not vote for her in retribution, but ended up doing an about-turn and doing just that.

Originally Posted by Garin on Day 3

I think it a mistake to target Sauce at this time. He has these long posts that might reveal his identity if we are patient.

Now this might look like something an innocent would say. But it is also something that a Wolf might be thinking if he was considering whether I might be Gifted. A way of saying something Wolfish, but making it look innocuous? Perhaps he has been taunting us?

Originally Posted by Garin on Day 4

Well, I didn't want to mention this because it makes me look suspicious in its own right. I think it quite obvious that the wolves are trying to set me up. TWO nightly deaths in a row from people that have either voted for me or raised suspicion of me in their last breaths? I am hardly that bold, especially since suspicions of me came early.

Garin said this early on Day 4, shortly following the revelation of Marcolie's death. Was he taking the opportunity to reinforce in our minds the notion that he was looking way too suspicious to be guilty?

Then there is his seeming reluctance, on Day 4, to accept that malkatoj was the Seer.

Originally Posted by Garin on Day 4

I'd like to believe Malkatoj but she has accused someone who no one else has suspected ...

I don't want to believe that TGBWS is a wolf because he seemed to be one of the first to vote for Naria in the game, It could have been a wolf thing but I won't be surprised if we are falling into a trap.

He carried on in the same vein for much of the day, even after TGWBS admitted his Wolfishness. Did he initially take this position because he thought that there might be some way to save TGWBS? Sounding us out to find out whether anyone felt the same way? He voted pretty early for TGWBS, but at the same time kept questioning malkatoj's declaration.

Ah well. there we have it. Not conclusive, but then none of the cases are. However, I have come round to the view that our lynchees for today should be Kath and Garin.

If spawn is a Wolf, I will be otherwise preoccupied for a very long time in kicking myself.

I will have to leave shortly, but I hope to be back an hour and a half before the deadline. We should try to agree on our lynchees at that point and then agree how everyone should vote. As I said, all votes should be in by half an hour before the deadline (although we cannot rely on Kath turning up to vote). I will be able to hold my vote until just before voting closes.

If you cannot avoid voting in the meantime, please try to vote in a way that still allows a double lynch.