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...for example the fiery posts of one Lush.(very nice work)
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"Fiery"? [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Hmmm, I rarely think of myself as "fiery", but I like that adjective. Thank you,
Cimmerian!
If I ever seem too personally involved with the issue of the "fair sex" in Tolkien's works, it is because I am too often treated like an ornament/toy/posession by the men in my life, and my personal frustration often spills into discussion where there is little place for it. But I did mention, earlier on in this thread, why I think that Tolkien wrote his females the way he did, and I can ejoy his books without indentifying with well-developed female characters.
Bethberry, about your comment concerning Celebrian: I think one can argue that she is the reason why Arwen's character is the way she is-a shadow in the background for the most part. One may very well say that because of the horrible fate of Cleberian, it was only appropriate for Arwen to stay behind (whether by choice or by her father's will), as far away from danger as possible, and not even attend the Council of Elrond...As for the effect Celebrian's experience had on Elrond's sons, you could very well say it was a positive one, at least in terms of the plot itself, considering that from that point on they were always ready to aid the cause against Mordor.