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Finwe · 12-14-2003, 01:23 PM

(Hey, I'm not complaining. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img])

I disagree with you. Sauron wasn't completely destroyed because he didn't pour all of himself into the One Ring. Being a Maia had nothing to do with it. Since a good part of his power was invested in the Ring, when it was destroyed, he was reduced to a mere shadow that could only wander.

As for being bound to the land, you are confusing Sauron with Morgoth. In Morgoth's Ring, it is said that the reason Morgoth cannot be completely destroyed is that he is bound to Arda, having been a mighty influence on it during its creation. Only at the End of Days, in the Dagor Dagorath, when Arda will be destroyed, will Morgoth be completely destroyed. Since Morgoth helped create Arda, by singing in the Ainulindalë, he is forever bound to it, and as long as it endures, he will endure in the Void.

I don't follow your reasoning for the Elves being bound to the land that Yavanna made for them. Yavanna didn't make the land, she made the flora and fauna on it. The reason Elves are bound to Arda is that it is just part of their nature, just as it is part of Man's nature to leave the Circles of Arda after death.

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 2:25 PM December 14, 2003: Message edited by: Finwe ]

12-14-2003, 01:23 PM	#12
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	(Hey, I'm not complaining. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]) I disagree with you. Sauron wasn't completely destroyed because he didn't pour all of himself into the One Ring. Being a Maia had nothing to do with it. Since a good part of his power was invested in the Ring, when it was destroyed, he was reduced to a mere shadow that could only wander. As for being bound to the land, you are confusing Sauron with Morgoth. In Morgoth's Ring, it is said that the reason Morgoth cannot be completely destroyed is that he is bound to Arda, having been a mighty influence on it during its creation. Only at the End of Days, in the Dagor Dagorath, when Arda will be destroyed, will Morgoth be completely destroyed. Since Morgoth helped create Arda, by singing in the Ainulindalë, he is forever bound to it, and as long as it endures, he will endure in the Void. I don't follow your reasoning for the Elves being bound to the land that Yavanna made for them. Yavanna didn't make the land, she made the flora and fauna on it. The reason Elves are bound to Arda is that it is just part of their nature, just as it is part of Man's nature to leave the Circles of Arda after death. <font size=1 color=339966>[ 2:25 PM December 14, 2003: Message edited by: Finwe ] __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.