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So the spirits of men go to the halls of Mandos and the spirits of dead elves too, but a different place? I guess I got that mixed up, my bad. I do remember that the dead elves went to a place in which they had no physical body, only soul and that it was not the same place men went to (because if not, Arwen and Eleassar would have been to gether even after passing away) but I thought the men went out of the reach of the Valar.
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