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***Mithadan*** · 10-16-2000, 01:46 PM

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Re: Tuor and Idril

Explicit and yet not so. Letter 153 reads:

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> "the cases of Luthien (and Tuor) and the position of their descendants was a direct act of God." <hr></blockquote>

But it also reads:

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> "Tuor weds Idril the daughter of Turgon King of Goldolin; and 'it is supposed' (not stated) that he as an unique exception receives the Elvish limited 'immortality'" <hr></blockquote>

It does not say certainly that he became an elf or that he and Idril reached Eldamar. If he was "made into" an elf, then this is explained perhaps. But how did he get past the Shadowy Isles, etc. and reach Valinor and, if he did, why didn't he petition they Valar for pardon as his son did?

--Mithadan--
"The Silmarils with living light
were kindled clear, and waxing bright
shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

10-16-2000, 01:46 PM	#5
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,394	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wight Posts: 220</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Tuor and Idril Explicit and yet not so. Letter 153 reads: <blockquote>*Quote:<hr> "the cases of Luthien (and Tuor) and the position of their descendants was a direct act of God." <hr></blockquote> But it also reads: <blockquote>Quote:*<hr> "Tuor weds Idril the daughter of Turgon King of Goldolin; and 'it is supposed' (not stated) that he as an unique exception receives the Elvish limited 'immortality'" <hr></blockquote> It does not say certainly that he became an elf or that he and Idril reached Eldamar. If he was "made into" an elf, then this is explained perhaps. But how did he get past the Shadowy Isles, etc. and reach Valinor and, if he did, why didn't he petition they Valar for pardon as his son did? --Mithadan-- "The Silmarils with living light were kindled clear, and waxing bright shone like stars that in the North above the reek of earth leap forth." </p> __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.