Well Kath it seems you got in right before me this time...I believe you are correct and it's from the appendicies it was Thrain to Throin and that's why it was so difficult...I'll get my revenge on you Firefoot. 
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“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.
"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”
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