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piosenniel · 10-07-2005, 04:27 PM

The Dwarves have 2 things to accomplish as far as what Tolkien wrote.

1.) Celeborn and a party of Lorien Elves need to get to where Elrond's army is. Celeborn and Elrond should make a joint stab at attacking the invading troops but they will be pushed back even as Ost-in-Edhil falls. I thought that Celeborn and his warriors would come through the mines - hateful as that might be to Celeborn (Dwarves disgust him because some of them slew Thingol for the Nauglamir). The Dwarves will see him safe to where Elrond is.

2.) Then the only thing left is for the Dwarves to attack Sauron's army from the rear as they push back Elrond and Celeborn's troops. They draw off much of the attack against Elrond and he and Celeborn, I suppose, are able to start their retreat toward what will be Rivendell.

If some of the Dwarves stay to fight with Elrond and Celeborn's troops - they won't be able to re-enter the West gate - it will have been firmly closed against Sauron's armies as the main body of Dwarves retreats and draws off the Orcs and such.

They'd have to retreat with Elrond and make their way back to Khazad-dum by the East Gate.

Do the other Dwarves want to do this?

Riv will want to go back to Khazad-dum to stay near his wife and children.

What about Skald and Bror - what do Folwren and Arry see them doing?

10-07-2005, 04:27 PM	#552
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	The Dwarves have 2 things to accomplish as far as what Tolkien wrote. 1.) Celeborn and a party of Lorien Elves need to get to where Elrond's army is. Celeborn and Elrond should make a joint stab at attacking the invading troops but they will be pushed back even as Ost-in-Edhil falls. I thought that Celeborn and his warriors would come through the mines - hateful as that might be to Celeborn (Dwarves disgust him because some of them slew Thingol for the Nauglamir). The Dwarves will see him safe to where Elrond is. 2.) Then the only thing left is for the Dwarves to attack Sauron's army from the rear as they push back Elrond and Celeborn's troops. They draw off much of the attack against Elrond and he and Celeborn, I suppose, are able to start their retreat toward what will be Rivendell. If some of the Dwarves stay to fight with Elrond and Celeborn's troops - they won't be able to re-enter the West gate - it will have been firmly closed against Sauron's armies as the main body of Dwarves retreats and draws off the Orcs and such. They'd have to retreat with Elrond and make their way back to Khazad-dum by the East Gate. Do the other Dwarves want to do this? Riv will want to go back to Khazad-dum to stay near his wife and children. What about Skald and Bror - what do Folwren and Arry see them doing? __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.