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Saulotus · 09-22-2000, 02:03 PM

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>>but I seem to recall The Tale of Years containing an entry for the wizards or at least Gandalf arriving during the Third Age.<<

Correct. Gandalf, Saruman, and Radagast arrived in the Third Age. The Blue Wizards arrived in the Second. Two different missions.

The AKALLABETH is stated by Christopher to be an oops on his part. He later discovered that it was not the last version as he thought it was, but an earlier one.

HISTORY Vol. 12 HISTORY OF THE AKALLABETH
C.J.R.Tolkien
"When I wrote SAURON DEFEATED I was nonetheless not at all clear about the time of the original writing of the AKALLABETH, and I assumed without sufficient study of the texts that it was later than it proves to be."

He printed the B2 revision, not the C revision in SILMARILLION. The references are not changed on the 'for that time' section, so this may indeed be in relation to the removal of Valinor only.

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09-22-2000, 02:03 PM	#12
Saulotus Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 346	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haunting Spirit Posts: 64</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Did the Valar abandon Middle Earth - Third Age? >>but I seem to recall The Tale of Years containing an entry for the wizards or at least Gandalf arriving during the Third Age.<< Correct. Gandalf, Saruman, and Radagast arrived in the Third Age. The Blue Wizards arrived in the Second. Two different missions. The AKALLABETH is stated by Christopher to be an oops on his part. He later discovered that it was not the last version as he thought it was, but an earlier one. HISTORY Vol. 12 HISTORY OF THE AKALLABETH C.J.R.Tolkien "When I wrote SAURON DEFEATED I was nonetheless not at all clear about the time of the original writing of the AKALLABETH, and I assumed without sufficient study of the texts that it was later than it proves to be." He printed the B2 revision, not the C revision in SILMARILLION. The references are not changed on the 'for that time' section, so this may indeed be in relation to the removal of Valinor only. </p>