[Kuruharan]

1) Wolves cannot pm during the day, so there's no way Eonwe and I could have coordinated the double post.
2) I VOTED FIRST!! I was not the one who caused the tie. You should look at Eonwe more than me.
3) Didn't you notice that I was trying to SAVE THE SEER??

Look back at my vote. When I voted, the strategic choice was between Perky and Cailin. I said that I flipped a coin to choose, but in reality I suspected (as you did) that Perky was the seer, and so I did not want to vote for him. THAT is why I chose Cailin.
-the phantom post 163

Yes, yes, yes. But all that does not say this could not have been an attempt by you to be seen voting but at the same time throw your vote away. At the time Cailin didn’t look too likely to catch another vote. I don’t think it likely both you and Eonwe would be wolves (which I said) but the remote possibility is something to keep in mind (which I also said). There could have been a misunderstanding or mistake. If you were a wolf you may not have been totally sure that Perky was the Seer and wanted to wait until NIGHT. But these are just possibilities. I mentioned them as possibilities (in fact my possibilities can’t all be true). And I still think people should keep this in mind.

There was absolutely NO REASON for Perky to mention Glirdan, so why in the world would a seer say something NEGATIVE about someone who he supposedly knew to be INNOCENT??

That doesn't make sense.

-and-

That is an extremely concrete defense. Perky even says he has an "INNER FEELING".

I think Perky dreamed about Azalia.
-the phantom post 163

Hmmm…I suppose it is possible. However, Perky said Glirdan appeared “hostile.” That is hardly a ringing condemnation. He could have also been attempting to tone down his rhetoric in an effort to save himself. Perky was also just echoing a lot of what, well…I had said.

However, at the moment I’m not looking at Zali, so for practical purposes it does not really matter.

I'm not sure if voting behavior is something we should think strongly on. While voting behavior may be a strong determinant in who is a wolf and who isn't later down the road. Yesterday's voting seemed more random.
-Boromir88 post 164

I disagree. I think yesterDAY’s voting is going to prove to be important. However, it is good to have people approaching it from different directions, so we can just agree to disagree.

sorry guys for not posting, i've had an, how you say, eventful day, me almost commiting suicide and all, but i'm just here to say that i'm an odrinary villager, but i feel it will be best that i leave


++Gil-Galad
post 169

Well…I believe I said he would need to do something strange even for him. This probably qualifies. I wonder if he could be attempting to cover for somebody else. Of course, if he is we still need to get rid of him.

After reading the quotes I posted, wouldn't you agree?
-the phantom post 171

No. It doesn’t necessarily follow. It just means things are more difficult because there can be no real consensus on who Perky dreamed about. But as I said before, at the moment it does not really matter.

However, Cailin was proven not to be a wolf, so I was not a wolf voting for a wolf.

Really…I must say…patting yourself on the back for killing an innocent. Isn’t that a bit much?!

(hint: I know the phantom will understand, but for other people that was a little joke.)

You see, Kuru has seen me in other WW villages before, and he knows that I am the type who, if attacked during the day, can turn the lynch mob around right onto the person who went after me. A wolf wouldn't want to take that risk.
-the phantom post 171

Really? I thought you were the type of person who ran away quickly and then drank copious quantities of alcohol afterwards.

I've been in a similar position myself and it's jolly awkward when it happens.
Lalaith post 173

I bet.

Oh and Kuru: so my posts were "marvels of non-substance", were they?
-Lalaith post 173

Yes and this one is too.

Lalaith – a clever girl who voted for the seer. Very suspicious.
Lalaith post 175

Amen.

I personally think at least one and maybe two wolves voted yesterday. In fact one is almost a given because of statistical necessity.

Also, I do hope that an unreasoning Gil-Galad bandwagon does not develop. That would ultimately not tell us very much even if he is a wolf. We need some healthy debate where everything you say can and will be used against you later.