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Old 08-28-2003, 07:15 PM   #1
Kaiserin
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Ok, I didn't understand that last bit you said...
I got an idea from someone else's post in another thread, that all things, whether considered "good" or "evil" all contrubute to a larger good in the end, because that is what Eru wills. If that is true, why should anything be considered "good" or "evil"? - ...That is just a thought. Anyway, I think Elentari had an acceptable answer to that:

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Therefore that man is called 'good' because he's not going to get any better, is he? And this man would be called good presumably because he can master this grain of evil within him.
Good point. Mastery of oneself...

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There was a nice thread, 'Inherrent Evil', I believe by the great Lord of Angmar, no? Maybe you should check it out.
Yes, it was an amazing thread indeed; I read it almost entirely. There were quite a few viewpoints in it, though it wasn't quite resolved on whether orcs are inherently evil or not. Anyway, this thread here isn't specifically about orcs. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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I know that Tolkien's Iluvatar is not the Christian God, so one cannot say for sure whether Iluvatar is completely good, or meant to be.
Precisely! Not all "gods" are entirely good.

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I personally believe that good is independent of evil. One does not need the other to exist.
I agree that good is independent of evil. But I don't agree that evil is independent of good. Consider this: assuming that Eru intended everything in his creation to be good, the things that turned evil are but a corruption of the original good. So, evil is just corrupted good. Evil then cannot exist without good, but good can exist independently from evil because it was this "good" which was the original intention.

Of course, we are all entitled to our own opinions...
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