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Old 09-29-2000, 09:17 PM   #31
Saulotus
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Re: man who forgot his name

Ok; let me get this straight.

You're contending the REJECTION of text, not only on the Mouth, but also on the origin of magic how magic works as stated by Tolkien, and replacing it with the assumption that since the Valar extended the line of Elros as a reward that all magic must be subsidized through them or another ainu?

That NOTHING can occur magicwise without an ainu's express approval and 'help'? Am I getting this correct on your contention here?

You're really equating the reward vs. individual corruption?
You're starting a Valaric clerical religion based on miracles of magic only they can sanction?

You're attributing all events of significance to the Valar? The removal of free-will and choice of destiny?
You're contending that Tolkien just didn't know how magic worked even when his text tells us how it does?

Thank you for the eludication.

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