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Old 08-26-2005, 09:11 AM   #57
Glirdan
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Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man
Pippin - Merry - Sam - Gimli - Legolas - Aragorn - (Boromir) - Gandalf
I myself would have put Sam before Merry and not Pippin, but I would put him before the rest of the Fellowship because the Hobbit's have greater will power than the rest. I'm not trying to put down Pippin or anything, but he's the type that would try anything out just to see what it does. Sam, on the other hand has more "hobbit sense" to not use it unless he is in great peril (ie. Cirith Ungol).

Idealy I'd place it like this:

Sam- Merry- Pippin- Legolas- Gimli- Aragorn- (Boromir)- Gandalf

As said before, I see Pippin as Frodo's Sam. Gimli and Legolas, Legolas for Frodo, Gimli for Sam. Finally Aragorn and Boromir or Gandalf, Aragron for Frodo and Boromir(if he lived) and Gandalf for Sam.

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Originally Posted by Mister Underhill
I'm more interested in scenarios where someone would have to take the Ring. Suppose Frodo had died in Moria, for instance? Who takes up the Ring then? Or, as I mentioned before, suppose Frodo were down in Cirith Ungol -- a more desperate situation. But I suppose we get deep into "what-ifs" then, because presumably with Gandalf and/or Aragorn in the lead, they might not have taken the Cirith Ungol route, or if they did, they'd be more wary about Shelob, more knowledgeable about the effects of her poison, etc.
The problem with that, as you said, is that there are to many if's. The route they would have taken into Mordor would have been completly different if Aragorn and/or Gandalf went with them. If they did go by Cirith Ungol, then as you said, they would have been aware of Shelob's poison effects and they would not have let the Orc band take Frodo away. They would have continued on, Aragorn probbaly carrying Frodo on his back. But, if Aragorn did go with them to Morodor, he wouldn;t have gone to the Paths of the Dead and Gondor and Rohan would have fallen. So if any of the Fellowship should have gone, it should have been Legolas and/or Gimli seeing as they didn't really do a whole lot of anything of importance. Pippin and Merry are the ones who awakened the wrath of the Ents, Gandalf was the mover of all the pieces on the the board, Aragorn had to go to the Paths of the Dead in order to save Gondor. What did Legolas and Gimli do? Accomanied Aragorn, nothing else. They didn't really have anything to do accept accompany Aragorn.
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