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Shelob · 08-20-2005, 08:56 PM

On the assumption that you're talking about the three highest (descended from groveling stone-trolls; was misplaced by a forgetful maia; being stalked by pretty dwarves) I have three guesses...since Oddwen's mention of The Hobbit brought them to my mind...

being stalked by pretty dwarves -- In Chapter 2 ("Roast Mutton") when Bilbo was captured by the trolls "The dwarves ... started off one by one to creep towards the light as quietly as they could." I don't quite get where the 'pretty' comes from, but the 'stalked' would be because the dwarves followed Bilbo stealthily and without trying to draw attention to themselves.

was misplaced by a forgetful maia -- Between Chapters 4 and 6 ("Over Hill and Under Hill" and "Out of the Frying-Pan into the Fire") when Dori drops Bilbo while they're escaping from the goblins and Gandalf, by dint of not checking that everybody had followed, looses Bilbo in the mountains. "'If we can only find him again...'" ~Gandalf

descended from groveling stone-trolls -- the sketchiest of them all -- Between the very end of Chapter 12 and the begining of Chapter 13 ("The Clouds Burst" and "The Return Journey") When Bilbo is hit on the head with "a stone hurtling from above". This is kinda based on the theory that trolls, esp. stone-trolls, would have very thick skulls and that 'groveling' could be no more than a reference to hight (ie: shorter, or just plain little)...working from that Bilbo does say "'A nasty knock on the head, I think ... But I have a helm and a hard skull."

It's the best I can do...esp. given it's now almost 11 at night...as for a binding thread between them, well, they're all things that happened to Bilbo...In The Hobbit ...I don't know...I can't even think straight, but maybe it'll help someone else...

08-20-2005, 08:56 PM	#1007
Shelob Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At the abysmal Abyss Mall. Posts: 276	On the assumption that you're talking about the three highest (descended from groveling stone-trolls; was misplaced by a forgetful maia; being stalked by pretty dwarves) I have three guesses...since Oddwen's mention of The Hobbit brought them to my mind... being stalked by pretty dwarves -- In Chapter 2 ("Roast Mutton") when Bilbo was captured by the trolls "The dwarves ... started off one by one to creep towards the light as quietly as they could." I don't quite get where the 'pretty' comes from, but the 'stalked' would be because the dwarves followed Bilbo stealthily and without trying to draw attention to themselves. was misplaced by a forgetful maia -- Between Chapters 4 and 6 ("Over Hill and Under Hill" and "Out of the Frying-Pan into the Fire") when Dori drops Bilbo while they're escaping from the goblins and Gandalf, by dint of not checking that everybody had followed, looses Bilbo in the mountains. "'If we can only find him again...'" ~Gandalf descended from groveling stone-trolls -- the sketchiest of them all -- Between the very end of Chapter 12 and the begining of Chapter 13 ("The Clouds Burst" and "The Return Journey") When Bilbo is hit on the head with "a stone hurtling from above". This is kinda based on the theory that trolls, esp. stone-trolls, would have very thick skulls and that 'groveling' could be no more than a reference to hight (ie: shorter, or just plain little)...working from that Bilbo does say "'A nasty knock on the head, I think ... But I have a helm and a hard skull." It's the best I can do...esp. given it's now almost 11 at night...as for a binding thread between them, well, they're all things that happened to Bilbo...In The Hobbit ...I don't know...I can't even think straight, but maybe it'll help someone else... __________________ A signature always reveals a man's character - and sometimes even his name ~Evan Esar. Pan for Everyone!