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Old 08-05-2005, 08:54 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by Gorthaur the Cruel
The Glorfindel of the 1st age was able to fight with a Balrog (a freakin Maia) but in the 3rd age, not much of that potency is felt. He's lingering in Rivendell. So you're saying that a re-embodied elf is better than the great survivors such as Cirdan & Galadriel? 'Coz from what I get is that even these two have strong spiritual presences..

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Originally Posted by Formendacil
But remember that Cirdan and Galadriel were VERY important Elves- very potent Elves. Glorfindel, while powerful, is no Cirdan or Galadriel.

Perhaps I ought to have merely said that reincarnating an Elf merely doesn't WEAKEN him, and left it at that. However, the textual evidence left by Tolkien DOES suggest that a reincarnated Elf is stronger than his previous self.

I am not sure that Glorfindel was any less important or more important than Galadriel or Celeborn. (Edit: I thoughthtat GLorfindel could withstand the nine but I was wrongo: )
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On foot even Glorfindel and Aragorn together could not with stand all the Nine at once.
Gandalf spoke highly of him. (But then, Frodo faced the nine too.)

Regarding the fact that Glorfindel lingered in Rivendell-- well, strictly speaking, so did Elrond; and Galadriel and Celeborn 'lingered' in Lorien. Their power was behind-the-scenes, and I would expect Glorfindel's power to be also primarily "behind the scenes".

The bit I do remember about GLorfindel is that he was in both worlds; and Gandalf explained that as follows:

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‘What about Rivendell and the Elves? Is Rivendell safe?’

‘Yes, at present, until all else is conquered. The Elves may fear the Dark Lord, and they may fly before him, but never again will they listen to him or serve him. And here in Rivendell there live still some of his chief foes: the Elven-wise, lords of the Eldar from beyond the furthest seas. They do not fear the Ringwraiths, for those who have dwelt in the Blessed Realm live at once in both worlds, and against both the Seen and the Unseen they have great power.’

‘I thought that I saw a white figure that shone and did not grow dim like the others. Was that Glorfindel then?’

‘Yes, you saw him for a moment as he is upon the other side: one of the mighty of the Firstborn. He is an Elf-lord of a house of princes. Indeed there is a power in Rivendell to withstand the might of Mordor, for a while: and elsewhere other powers still dwell. There is power, too, of another kind in the Shire. But all such places will soon become islands under siege, if things go on as they are going.
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