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Old 12-14-2002, 06:02 PM   #11
Orald
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HoME 11:

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The Quenya forms were Kalaquendi and Moriquendi. The Kalaquendi in Quenya applied only to the Elves who actually lived or had lived in Aman; and the Moriquendi was applied to all others, whether they had come on the March or not. The latter were regarded as greatly inferior to the Kalaquendi, who had experienced the Light of Valinor, and had also acquired far greater knowledge and powers by their association with the Valar and Maiar.
In the period of Exile the Ñoldor modified their use of these terms, which was offensive to the Sindar. Kalaquendi went out of use, except in written Ñoldorin lore. Moriquendi was now applied to all other Elves, except the Ñoldor and Sindar, that is to Avari or to any kind of Elves that at the time of the coming of the Ñoldor had not long dwelt in Beleriand and were not subjects of Elwë. It was never applied, however, to any but Elvish peoples. The old distinction, when made, was represented by the new terms Amanyar 'those of Aman', and Úamanyar or Úmanyar 'those not of Aman', beside the longer forms Amaneldi and Úmaneldi.
The quote doesn't say anything of elves that were born after the DoV, but it could be construed that they would be of the moriquendi. Of course I think this is a big mistake, because the decendents of the Caliquendi who ended up in Middle Earth were just slightly worse off, if any, than the decendents of the Caliquendi who stayed in Valinor after the DoV. And since the decendents of the Caliquendi that remained in Valinor would be considered Caliquendi themselves, decendents of the Caliquendi that went to Middle-Earth should be considered thus.

Intermarriage of Caliquendi and Moriquendi would just complicate things and I am not sure what would be what. In that scenario I would have to abandon the terms moriquendi and caliquendi in favor of the terms amanyar and umanyar, which the elves apparently did as well.
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