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Old 07-20-2005, 08:51 PM   #49
Folwren
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My word!!

It's a jolly good thing this is all under the humor section, or I'd think you guys were serious! As it is, I'm having a hard enough time as it is to keep from getting possitively furious with at least TGWBS.

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Originally posted by the guy who be short
Bilbo was enigmatic, a wonderful trait. and Sam, not desiring the spotlight? Mr Pay-attention-to-me!-I-have-thirteen-children? Mr Running-off-to-adventure-abandoning-his-gaffer? Mr Mayor-seven-times-in-a-row-so-invite-me-to-your-parties?
For you to even suppose that Samwise was selfish or hypocritical is horrifyingly unbelievable. Sam didn't want to go off with Frodo, Gandalf made him! Gandalf knew that Sam wouldn't want it - he even called it a punishment to teach him not to eavesdrop and to shut him up properly. He couldn't take his Gaffer with him - it woulda killed him.

And chap doesn't make himself Mayor, either. The people vote for him. Ding-dong!

And as for having thirteen children...that was just as much Rosie's choice as Sam's. A woman doesn't go off and have more than a dozen kids just so that her husband can be in the spotlight.

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Samwise is detestable. He symbolises hypocrisy in its strongest form. He rises from a peasant class family to become a member of the nobility. And then what does he do for the peasantly? Nothing!
He certainly did NOT forget the peasants! He spread his gift all over the Shire! He rebuilt the Bag shot Row after the Ruffians had destroyed it and he cleaned up the entire land! He helped with it, mind you, he didn't tell others to do it and sit back to watch.

Sam Gamgee was the humblest, sweetest of all hobbits, and though Bilbo is great in his own way, I don't think he holds a light to Sam's over all character in the books.
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