[The Only Real Estel]

Posted by Imladris:

But even so, Faramir's change doesn't bother me nearly as much as it did before.

I agree with you here.

Posted by AW:

I think there probably was a way for Faramir not to be changed...and I do like your idea, but I think that perhaps there is a faction of the audience that isn't so patient as to listen to all that talking. I'm not saying that's me...but there are some people out there who don't really care to see Faramir sitting down to a chat with Frodo and Sam... and then another one with Gandalf and Pippin.

Good point. I'm sure the audience would get tired if there were a couple of longish scenes of just talking. But I'd say if we snuck the Faramir comment in while he was already talking to the hobbits in the cave it wouldn't make it to much longer. And the Gandalf/Faramir scene wouldn't be very long at all, basically only long enough to say what I suggested. But I'm sure the movie goers would get bored quickly if those scenes dragged.

Posted by Imladris:

In fact, PJ sort of touched on this when Faramir first saw the Ring...except it should have been bigger in a more subtle way. If that makes any sense. Basically the music would have been the driving force...tense, powerful, dark, etc. Then maybe there could have been a "flash-back-esque" scene showing Faramir bearing the Ring and leading Gondor to victory, afterward showing him falling to darkness...

That sounds like an awesome idea to me, it would also help any attentive members of the audience to see what Boromir was imagining before his bad choice and untimely death.